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30 Oct 2006

man enough for a lesbian

Sultry sex symbol Angelina Jolie is said to be almost every dyke's wet dream, but her heartthrob of a husband Brad Pitt is too an object of dyke desire. Dinah Gardner finds out why some lesbians dig men like Brad, Johnny Depp, Wang Li Hom and Takeshi Kaneshiro.

Who doesn't love Brad Pitt?

From top: Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, singer/actor Takeshi Kaneshiro and singer Wang Li Hom.
Well maybe Jennifer Aniston, but pin-up Pitt has just won himself a keg of extra kudos after he said he wouldn't be marrying Angeline Jolie until the US legalised same-sex marriage.

His latest gesture has probably won the hearts and minds of lesbians everywhere. Not that he needs it.

Pitt has long been an object of dyke desire. He's a golden boy in a white wifebeater.

Scratchy lesbian rocker Melissa Etheridge famously quipped that of all men, it was Pitt that had the power to "turn her."

"Brad's effect is far-reaching," Etheridge told Vanity Fair in 1995. "One night a few of us, shall we say lesbians, were in the hot tub watching the guys play basketball in the pool. We were staring at Brad, and we all agreed he could change a woman's mind."

Although I'd rather be raiding Jolie's tomb, Pitt has a certain allure. I don't know if he'd be changing my mind, but he might make me change my underwear.

What is it about certain men that turns lesbians on?

And who qualifies in moving us from the muff to mulling about the men?

We've already established Pitt as lesbian lust fodder, but a quick survey pulls in Johnny "Jack Sparrow" Depp, soccer star David Beckham, warbler Justin Timberlake and ex X-Files David Duchovny as fellow sappho magnets.

Dyke researcher, Miss E, plumbs for Timberlake. "His music is a turn-on, it's the whole package I guess. It's just refreshing to see a straight man in the music business actually packing in the sex appeal and turning it into an act."

The Stud is a Timberlake groupie too, it seems. "It has crossed my mind more than once that his body could be rocked," she says.

Who else? Megan, a 30-something Chinese dyke, fancies Takeshi Kaneshiro, the half Taiwanese, half Japanese pretty boy and star of Perhaps Love and House of Flying Daggers. Taiwanese mandopop cutie, Wang Li Hom, gets Canadian-Chinese dyke, Jockie, hard; while my Indonesian friend Slim has the hots for Pitt.

"Brad Pitt in Fight Club (is sexy)," says Slim. "I like the whole 'I don't care attitude', and he has a rock solid body, six pack."

Finally, I ask my old partner in crime, Miss Clarice, who flicks her clit.

"Robin Williams, Ashton Kutcher, Sean Penn, Christopher Walken, Brad Pitt (sorry I hate to admit it), Tim Robbins, Matthew McConaughey, Owen Wilson, Robert Downey Jnr, Jake Gyllenhaal, Denzel Washington and Johnny Depp," she says.

I'm breathless. I don't even know who half those men are.

"Of them all... I want Robin William's sperm," she says, adding, "Does this disqualify me as a lesbian?"

No comment.

For my own part, I've been drooling over the uncommonly gentle Depp since he snipped Winona Ryder's barnet back in Edward Scissorhands in 1990. Nowadays though, I find my interest piqued by Buffy the Vampire Slayer's "Spike."

Spike is a platinum-headed charmer, a cockney-tongued rogue, and a vampire with a soul. His masculinity is shot through with vulnerability. He is not man; he is certainly not woman; he is a beastie beyond. And I'd do him in a heartbeat.

And therein lies the magic that some of these men wield.

Their manliness is almost always tempered by femininity or androgyny. In general, the kinds of men that can moisten the Sapphic lip are boyish, like Timberlake, Kaneshiro and Beckham, or genderless, like Depp and Spike.

"I don't think we're attracted to men a lot of straight women are attracted to," explains The Stud. "I think gay women go for more androgynous men. They have a sort of noble beauty that transcends gender.

"The hairless beauty thing - that is boyish. The quintessence of masculinity isn't Brad Pitt, it's Mario the pizza shop owner who's super hairy and has a 5 o'clock shadow by 9am."

Dykes like Spike because he is vulnerable, because he likes to be topped and because he's into hot kinky, genderless sex.

"In the presence of femininity Spike immediately transforms from a macho posturing monster into a man of breathtaking beauty and erotic potential," writes Dee Amy-Chinn, in her "Queering the bitch: Spike, transgression and erotic empowerment."

It's also safe for us as dykes to eroticise or romanticise these men because they are unattainable. They are celebrities after all.

"You're allowed to desire them," says Jockie, "because they're just an idea."

But what of the dynamics of this desire?

Would we go "all the way" with the objects of our lust?

The Stud says she believes we're not turned on by these men, but that we want to turn into them.

"I also think for a lot of gay women, when they get excited about men - I think they confuse what they are excited about," she says. "I think some of them would like to be these men. A lot of women, for example, are into James Dean - a lot of them just really want to emulate him.

"When I was growing up and before I realised I was a lesbian all my crushes were guys I wanted to be. While all the other girls were fantasising about going to second base with Luke Perry, I was practicing his eyebrow arch in the mirror, and contemplating the merits of sideburn length."

But I don't think I'm confusing hard ons for sideburns.

And although I cannot visualise the mechanics of having sex with either Depp or Spike, the idea of them - with clothes on - is undeniably arousing. They have a genderless essence and a vulnerable power that helps me bypass the reality of what's between their legs.

Dawn, a Singaporean dyke, discriminates between finding a guy attractive and being attracted to him.

"From a very simple-minded point-of-view, for a lesbian to find a guy attractive and be attracted to him, it either means you are a bisexual or you are just a very horny girl."

I must just be horny then.

Reader's Comments

1. 2006-10-30 15:19  
And Korea's Won Bin too?! He looks like a baby butch :)
2. 2006-10-30 19:14  
ermm did she really mean robin williams or did she want to say ROBBIE williams...? it's okay, not everyone wants to see mrs doubtfire starkers... ;p
3. 2006-10-30 20:18  
dysfunctional lesbians? hmm....
i dont like any of the above mentioned.and especially hate pitt. *rawr*

i like bishounen's though, in a non-sexual way, i must clearly add.
4. 2006-10-30 20:20  
yes wang li hom and brad pitt are hot .. hot .. hot ... lol ... but i classify myself as a full on pure lesbian ... so why the attraction to these 2 males... beats me .. lol
5. 2006-10-30 20:22  
might i just add... anniston and jolie are hot hot hot hot as well... lol ...
6. 2006-10-30 21:29  
i don't agree with Dawn. i love love luuuuurve angelina jolie but it doesn't mean i'd like to bed her.

it's just plain attraction!
7. 2006-10-30 21:31  
I find some Androgynous(neither look like male nor female) guys attractive, but I'm NOT Sexually Attracted to them though.
Androgynous Guys like Gackt Camui is sure pretty.. I like Bishounen too!!
^-^/

And I must say that I'm NOT bisexual.
Being Bisexual is being SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to BOTH male and female.
So if lesbians find some of the guys attractive, and NOT sexually attracted to them, they are NOT bisexual..
=)
8. 2006-10-31 00:29  
it could be the hairless beauty thingy. i have les friends who are turned on by guys who are clean, no visible facial or body hair. confused and fantasize how good it is if they are women instead of men. i do find pitt and wang lee hom and Takeshi very attractive.
9. 2006-10-31 00:39  
i guess sometimes the woman instinct of these dykes just CREEP out of them unknowingly. but i have to admit that there are some men who are really attractive.then again... i wan JOLIE!
10. 2006-10-31 04:51  
When I was yougner and watching romantic scenes where the guy and the gal "romance out", I had always imagined or fantasized that I'm the guy. I do admit though, I admire the man's body. In terms of convenience and muscle power, hey my given body is ain't no match. I admire men's masculine fleshy palms, like I admire arts. I admire them like a boy admiring his older brother or father. I'm a lesbian and I really mean I AM, but when I'm "on heat" I do fantasize sex with men as well,... (well I am single and alone still). And I think I know why. It's just a natural phenomenon, animal instinct. Afterall it is a female body that I'm in, and it does have it's craving and it's just sex and nothing else. It's not about the thing in between the guys' legs or caressing macho mass, it's just a natural physical craving, that could generate curiousity. Like I don't fancy instant noodle, but if I get desperately hungry and it's the only food around, I'll eat it. I'll eat it and I'll forget about it, and I will still crave for what I really want, a passionate meal of spaghetti. I had it yesterday, I asked for it today, and I still want it tomorrow.
11. 2006-10-31 09:10  
do you think there are women who will turn gags on? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!
12. 2006-10-31 15:06  
Some gay guy told me that he would sleep with Faye Wong in a heartbeat!

13. 2006-10-31 16:01  
I could be wrong but I think this is the kinda article most homophobic heterosexual guys would be oh-so-happy to read.

Those guys are attractive but as far as I can imagine, hell would freeze before I'd consider ever getting physically close with any of them.

I'd very much like to see jolie & anniston getting it on though ;)
14. 2006-10-31 16:18  
Well ... I am a gay boy (and proud to be one) but I definetely don't mind sleeping with someone like Gisele Bundchen, Angelina Jolie or Scarlett Johan. Afterall, they are GORGEOUS! Of course, given a choice - I would prefer my all time favourie Jude Law but hey, I still don't mind the girls to ... and I am quite sure, I am not a Bisex!
15. 2006-10-31 18:06  
There are certainly many women whom gay men look up to, or maybe, even aspire to be? Names like Madonna, Faye Wong, Anita Mui, Lin Chinghsia and Lucy Liu comes to mind.

I guess it is not so much about wanting to copulate with them. Perhaps it is the inner strength and power that they exhibit which draws gay men to them?

Personally, I have always been (and still am) intrigued by Linda Evangelista and Anita Mui....
16. 2006-10-31 18:27  
I certainly agree in some ways, that even lesbians do get turned on by these iconic actors/muscicians. Though I am gay, I wouldn't mind sleeping with someone like Geena Davis (Commander In Chief), Milla Jovovich (Resident Evil, Ultra Violet) & Angelina Jolie(Lara Corft).

There's something 'bout them that oozes sexiness, class and a tinge of masculinity that I always like in girls, but who aren't too butched up. I personally feel the 3 women io mentioned above are obviously the object of desire for many gay men to have physical contact with, but not on a emotional level, cos that's where the guy comes in - I hope i am making sense. LOL!
17. 2006-10-31 23:05  
Well, i do rgd Takashi Kanishiro very well- he's a real charismatic & gd-lookng chap, esp when set against the std of today's celebs lol.
bt the thought of 'doing' him just makes me go,'Ewwwwwww" not 'Ohhhhhhhhhhh' =p ....Honestly, it had as much appeal as the thought of f***ing my kid brother (no kidding here).
Bt oh,wouldnt I KILL to look like him lol; just imagine how many female (straight AND lesbian) admirers i'd have!
18. 2006-11-01 02:22  
Great article, it helped articulate why as a lesbian, i still find some male celebrities and non-celebrities attractive. i actually want to be like them ^^
19. 2006-11-01 16:31  
WOW! brad pitt is so NOT hot! here's a list to ponder:

- ewan mcgregor
- matthew mconoughay
- antonio benderas
- takeshi kaneshiro (as mentioned, naturally)
- jason statham

love steph :)
20. 2006-11-04 10:02  
I've to second the notion regarding the possibility of lesbians actually wanting to be those men that they supposedly 'desire'. I'm a gay man but yet I find certain women to be very attractive partially because I envy them and deep down wish I could carry their flair.
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22. 2006-11-06 04:30  
~I'm an artist so I appreciate good bone structure and muscle anatomy... but as a lesbian, I think that my "appreciation" only goes so far. It's easy to fantasize over the pretty boys like (no one mentioned him...) Orlando Bloom because he's not what we would call the epitomy of masculinity. I mean he could have passed for a woman had he worn a dress with that long blonde hair in LOTR! But, *laughs* you'd have to be a little drunk to confuse it once the dress came off... (know what I mean?)haha...I digress, but seriously.... Brad Pitt has a beautiful bone structure in his face, and a chiseled body like some long lost statue from Greece/Rome... but I prefer him keeping the "fig leaf" on. And for the record, the above mentioned blokes are beautifully-rendered-artistic-masterpieces of men that you will probably never see the likenesses of in real life, SO it's no wonder even the studliest of lesbians want to jump their bones. Go ahead and fantasize, and if you meet them, use that once-in-a-lifetime-oppurtunity to "do" whatever you darn well please with them, no one can blame you for your "artistic appreciation". *winks* hahaha
This goes the same for gay men, you'd be crazy not to sleep with such masterpieces of females and icons of femininity like Angelina or Jennifer, I mean, have you seen their bone structure??!! No, it's not you, I AM obsessed over bone structure (I'm an artist, y'know?)....*laughs* Besides, the best things about fantasies are that they are as likely to happen as a pig growing wings and flying with a penguin.

the perfect analogy for sleeping with a celebrity:
~~It's like drinking a VERY expensive wine---> you can't afford to do it all the time- and only a fool refuses a free glass. Saluta!~~

*mwah* Love 'ya all,
Yuki Kitsune
23. 2006-12-28 16:45  
Such a good article.. but being bisexual is not easy.. need a woman care but need sex from a man.. so where she will ended up wit?

Cheers!
:)

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