Well known for picketing the funerals of US soldiers killed in Iraq with "God Hates Fags" billboards, Fred Phelps, 71, and his 51-year-old daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper have been barred from entering the UK.
Members of the notorious Westboro Baptist Church commonly use "God Hates Fags" billboards when they picket gay-related events and the funerals of US soldiers killed in Iraq, who the church claim, have died because God is punishing America for its acceptance of homosexuality.
"God hates the Queen Mary's College, and the fag-infested UK, England, and all having to do with spreading sodomite lies via The Laramie Project, this tacky bit of cheap fag propaganda masquerading as legitimate theater," the group said on their web site.
Upon learning of the ban, the notorious Westboro Baptist Church, which is predominantly populated by founder Phelps and some 70 members of his family, claimed it had secretly dispatched followers to the UK to avoid being denied entry to the country under Britain's anti-hate laws.
The planned protest will mark the first time the group has held protests outside North America.
The group made the headlines in 1998 when members picketed Shepard's funeral to promote their belief that homosexuals are destined for hell. The continued to cause outrage by protesting at the funerals of American soldiers, who the church claim, have died because God is punishing America for its acceptance of homosexuality.
According to the UK's Timesonline, the UK Border Agency confirmed the ban saying that both "individuals have engaged in unacceptable behaviour by inciting hatred against a number of communities."
"The Government has made it clear it opposes extremism in all its forms.
"We will continue to stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country.
"The exclusions policy is targeted at all those who seek to stir up tension and provoke others to violence regardless of their origins and beliefs."
The move follows the UK Home Office's recent decision to deport Dutch MP Geert Wilders fearing that his views on Islam would "threaten community harmony and therefore public safety."
Prominent gay activist Peter Tatchell was quoted as saying in the Times that although he loathed their views, he disagreed with the decision to ban the Phelpses and Wilders.
"The Phelpses are odious, homophobic bigots. They give Christianity a bad name," he said. "Objectionable though they are, I don't agree with them being banned. But since the Home Secretary banned the Dutch MP Geert Wilders at least she is being consistent by also banning these Christian preachers of hate."
Last week, Wilders flew in to London's Heathrow airport despite being informed of the ban in advance. Wilders's controversial short film Fitna juxtaposes verses from the Koran with images of terrorist bombings and violence.
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There was a British documentary on them recently, by filmmaker Louis Theroux, who tagged along and got to know them, it was very revealing. To me, the leader of the sect looks a bit like that old preacher from "Poltergeist". The whole video can be viewed on the internet.
Do they get tax exempt status?
Although the school will not be supporting the anti protest. stupid idiots.
http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/homepage/x114012471/Anti-gay-church-to-visit-Cambridge-Rindge-and-Latin-Harvard-in-March
All religions teaches us to be kind , show love , treat others with respect and ....the list goes on.
It's these SOB that give religion a bad name. Come on , I think they want attention and if we give in , they get what they want. Just ignore them.
Americans ...America ....pleaseeeeeeeeeeee , lets solve this financial crisis first.
Stop all form of extremism. Do it at your own playground. Don't spread it to other parts of the world. We enjoy life without your interferences. Period !!!!!
Just my 2 cents worth !
The devil hates Jesus, who is a Homosexual, because He has defeated him. Jesus has defeated the devil by His blood. Via His blood and death on the cross, He has saved the world from hell. But the devil is going to hell. Since the devil has been defeated by Jesus, the only way his anger could be satisfied is by making war with the rest of the homosexuals.
HIV is not from God, it is from the devil. It is a curse from the devil for all races, cultures, nations, states, sexual orientation, age, etc. But he make people think it is a homosexual disease. Why? Just as by the blood of one Man, Jesus, the whole world is blessed and saved, so the devil wants to the whole world to be cursed by HIV and think the blood of homosexuals is dirty. The devil hated the blood of Jesus!! In this way the devil feels that Jesus is always under his feet, defeating Him and he would be God instead of Jesus.
Do not think homosexuality is a sin anymore. Saying that implying Jesus is a sinner, which is a blasphemy. Homosexuality is divine! The devil wants homosexuals think homosexuality is sin, feels condenmed, get into promicuity, self hatred, spread HIV, and then use people to accuse them. Then the devil would be happy as he feels like Jesus is always under his feet.
Just as the jews in the old testament criminalize Jesus and kill Him on the cross, not knowing that He is their God, similarly Christrians today crimialize homosexuals in the secular world. The devil wanted to deceive God's children. He used God's people to kill God as this would hurt God's heart the most. History repeats itself. The same old lie of the devil but in different packaging.
He who has ears let him hear!
No offence though...
or whatever u call tht in America lol
Post #13 Lanying -Well,people sometimes imitate the behavior of opponents for self-preservation. That's why when dealing with fundies, u gotta talk like one. :p
What do you think?
On the surface, they seems to be like water and oil, cannot be mixed. But in reality, they can be mixed, and indeed very, very, very related to each other.
You must get things clear:
1) The Bible did not mention anything immoral/ negative about homosexual orientation.
2) The Bible does mention about homosexual activity, and all negative remarks.
3) The Bible says that the cause of homosexual activities is via the worship of devil/ demons (i.e. idols). This is the only cause mentioned in the Bible (Rom 1:26-27).
Jesus became flesh, a Human Being. He is God Almighty, who humbles Himself even to the extend of being a Homosexual, a Human Being who possesses homosexual orientation (Jn 13:23; Jn 19:26; Jn 20:2; Jn 21:7, 20). Homosexual orientation is divine. The devil knew it and he wanted to be like God, wanted to be worshipped as a god. In order to feel like he has the Godhood/ God's nature, he invented his own perverted form of homosexuality: homosexual prosmicous activity (Rom 1:26-27). Thus many people get involved in homosexual acts when they worship demons. But Jesus has fulfilled the Law for the homosexuals (i.e. live the life of a Homosexual without sex, and died). Jesus earned and purchased the righteous life and given it to all, including homosexuals, who would believe. Jesus has gone through the 'suppression', so that we no need to 'suppress' any longer. We are set free from the Law and accepted by God!
The devil is losing his stronghold. Homosexuals could now leave the devil and enter into God's kingdom free and easy when they know the complete Truth! Homosexuals are originally his 'zhao pai' (brandname), but God has touched them and delivered them from him!
Why would God and the devil are so interested in the affair/ welfare of homosexuals, who are just a minority in the society? To the devil, so long as the homosexuals are under his bondage and lies, he will feel like he is higher than God, having Jesus under his feet. Jesus, a Homosexual, has defeated him and crushed his head (Gen 3:15). The devil cannot make war against Jesus. Thus he makes war with the rest of the homosexuals and put them under his feet.
God said:"Devil, let my homo-people go."
Devil replied:"No way! No way! No way! They are mine! I want them to worship me under my feet! Even if they happen to leave me and join You, I will not give them a good time but make them feel miserable!"
In John 19:26-27, Jesus saw his mother standing by, and the disciple whom Jesus 'loved', standing by as well, he instructed John to took Mary, His mother, to his own house to take care of her, just like his biological mother.
In Deut 25:5-6, God has implemented a Law regarding widows. In the Old Testament, women are propety of men. They cannot come out into the society to work. Their finances and livelihood depend solely on men. If a woman's husband is dead, and if she had no son, then she would need to get married to her brother-in-law who would take care of her. From this passage, we can know that if she had sons, her first born would take care of her, and if her first born is dead, then her second born would take care of her, and so on. If she had no son and brother-in-laws, then she would need to go back to her father's house, just like the case of Tamar, Judah's daughter-in-law. If her father is dead, then she would remain poor or some forced herself to be prostitutes in order to earn money and survive.
In the case of Jesus, he is the First Born in the family. He is not the husband of Mary. Why would He wanted someone to take care of her after He was dead? Perhaps Mary is a widow by then, i.e. Joseph, Jesus' earthy father, was already dead, Jesus, the first born, was thus the next one to take care of her. Jesus knew God's Law well, and He has biological brothers (Matthew 12:46, John 2:12, Acts 1:14), and one of them is Jude! Jesus would have kept quiet to John and Mary, and let his biological brothers to take care of her. Unless you say that his biological brothers, including Jude, who wrote the Bible, was very unspiritual and forsook their Mother Mary. Otherwise, Jesus would have 'broken' the Law in order to have the outsider, the son of Zebedee called John, to take care of His mother, just because He 'loved' John so much!
Mother Mary became John's mother-in-law and Jesus has instituted same gendered marriage, marrying himself to John on the cross just before He died and said 'it is finished'.
No body know this mystery until 2000 years later. All because the devil lied. Homosexuals, wake up!
Jesus never started exgay movement, and never marry Himself to women, in order to earn 'gay marriage' before the Father for us. Gay marriage is accepted before God the Father and it is there for us to claim. The devil hates it anmd tries all means to distract us from it.
He who has ears, let him hear!
"I will put enmity between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."
The verse is fulfilled. Abrahamic faiths shed lots of blood. Why? God says through Abraham, the whole world is blessed. The devil did the opposite, he wanted the whole world to be cursed through Abraham and his descendants. He let his children kill and hate one another in the sight of the world. That is why Jews kill Muslims, Muslims kill Jews, Muslims oppress women, Catholics persecute Christians, Christians criticize Catholics, Christians criminalize homosexuals, homosexuals hate Christians, etc...All these didn't know that they are far and close relatives of one another, all one big family.
Their only common enemy is the devil.
Note: Killing homosexuals = killing God. Devil deceived Muslims and Christians to kill their God unknowingly, hurting God's heart via His own beloved children.
Devil shouted: Being gay, cannot be Christian. Being Christian, cannot be gay!
What a big lie. The more he lies, the more we know the Truth. Know the Truth and the Truth indeed sets you free.
Shame on the devil, defeated by a Homosexual, defeated by the blood of a Homosexual, rejected by the love of a Homosexual. The world is saved through the love of a Homosexual. The devil has not tasted the love of a Homosexual, and he will be going to hell. He is very envious! That is why the devil hates the love of homosexuals and the blood of homosexuals, makes the world despise it, defame it, makes the world think it is dirty.
Devil: "What I could not have, I will not let others to have it. I will deceive, deceive, deceive and make many homosexuals hate God! Hahahahaha."
That is why all things are possible with God! Also, many who are first will be last, and last, first.
He who has ears, let him hear!
Please read the News according to none other than the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/atheism/
Subtext God is dead so get a life!
There is no such thing... Relgion is the sigh of an oppressed creature, religion is a spritual gin it dulls the effects of capitalism! Just a form of social control... there would not have been riots at this protest if it went ahead but they should have been allowed to enter the UK and protest. Then we would all realise how mindless they all are.
Jesus was a horny bottom boy and was being gang banged by all his 'holy' followers. Your living in a dream world crazy4manz....
Thanks for the input.
Once upon a time, people used to say, "ignore him and he'll go away" - - well that didn't happen. From time to time small groups would anti-picket wherever he and his clan would go, but those little pockets of resistance soon faded. I mean, besides this Westboro group, who has the time to take off work and cease all other social responsibilities to picket?
The city council and other leaders in Topeka are too scared of him to do anything. They made some feeble attempts like saying he had to be so many yards away from a funeral to picket, so he just made his signs bigger and bolder so one can't help but see them. Phelps is, of course, not the reason at all of coming to China, but I don't see myself hurrying home until perhaps he has died (I'm envisioning in some horrible fire-related death), but people like this are tenacious. They hang onto life by their long, scraggly fingernails. I could be in China for a good long time!
Whether Jesus is a bottom or not I am not sure. One thing I am sure. He is either a G, B or T. He cannot be gang banged by his followers since He has to be a perfect Sacrifice, spotless and blameless. He cannot entertain sexual thoughts, cannot lie with a male, etc. He just got attracted to male, only hold hands or kiss or let a male's head lean on his chest. He gone through the suffering of suppression, died on the cross, and the life which He purchased by His blood is given to all, including the LGBTs. We no need suppress anymore now.
As far as God is concerned, same gendered marriage is accepted before Him. In the Old Testament, homosexuals can get attracted, love, kiss but cannot have anal sex. They feel incomplete, homosexuality is always 'lower' than heterosexuality. They will have to find completion from the devil (e.g. idol worship in Romans 1:26-27). 'You got to get it from me', says the devil. Thus no way can they please God if they break the Law.
However, Jesus loves us so much. He walked the life of a homosexual, but without sex. After He died, homosexuals can find completion under a same gendered love covenant before God. Homosexual matrimony is brought to the same 'level', if not 'higher', as heterosexual matrimony before the Father. That is to say, God has make a way where there seems to be no way. Same gendered marriage becomes a second option for LGBTs in the New Testament, where in the Old Testament the only way to get it is from the devil.
'Are you leaving me?', the devil screamed. So the devil is angry, kept homosexuals under bondage, strike them with HIV, defame their blood, use the descendants of Abraham to accuse them, rob them of the life which God has purchased for them by His blood. In doing so, he 'feels' that Jesus is under his feet, and he is higher than God.
I may sound crazy but Truth usually sound crazy. But be sure that on the Day of Judgement, every knee (including the fundies) will bow before a Homosexual, every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is God Almighty, who is gay!
Post #23 jammyboi, you are right. He should go to that island.
They will cry out "Mama! Blasphemy!Blasphemy!"
or worse. "Persecute him!" :-p
Fundie jews: "Blasphemy!Blasphemy! Away with him!"
Crazyman (17th Century version): 'The earth rotates around the sun!'
Fundie roman catholics: "Heresy!Heresy! Away with him!"
Crazyman (20th Century version): 'Praying in tongues is from God! Miracles and prophecies still exists today!'
Fundie traditional christians: "Heresy!Heresy! The Bible is complete. No more prophecies. Away with him!"
Crazyman (21st Century version): 'Jesus is queer, and homosexuality is divine!'
Fundie evangelical christians: "Blasphemy!Blasphemy! Away with him!"
I am not surprised since Jesus can turn water for cleaning hands into highest grade wine, then why can't He turn what is despised in this world (e.g. homosexual orientation) into something holy and divine by using His body and His life on earth. That is our God!
Summary:
Jesus: homosexual orientation, divine nature (Jn 13:23; Jn 19:26; Jn 20:2; Jn 21:7, 20)
Devil: Wants to be like god to be worshipped, get his worshippers involved in promicuous homosexual act (Romans 1:26-27), his own definition of homosexuality.
In order to worship God, one cannot get involved in homosexual activity as this is the way how the pagans woship demons. Devil: 'Yes. Get it from me! Get it from me! Haha...'
BUT Jesus died and resurrected. Righteousness is purchased and given to homosexuals. God accepted gay marriage and sex within marriage. One more option of sex and self fulfillment is given to them.
Devil: 'No way! No way! You got to get it from me. I hate You Jesus! I am defeated by You, a Homosexual! I cannot accept the Truth. I will go and deceive. Homosexuality is sin, I will use church to make homosexuals feel bad, to distract them from the blessing of God. I want to make them hate themselves...hahaha.'
Monogamous gay marriage and acceptance from the society is God's blessing and breaks the devil's viscous cycle, that is why he tries all means to hinder it.
He who has ears let him hear!
Do you really beleive in Transubstantiation? you even know what that is? That is a lie I am very sorry to tell you. You have been lied to since the first day you were born, Jesus is dead deal with it!
He never changed water into wine... what is high grade? Have you even tasted wine? I dont think that would happen in that region all those years ago... what year is it? 2009? You really believe that could happen all those years ago? I have seen magicians do greater tricks than that.
hahah oh your pathetic closet case. You really hate yourself and this whole global website allowing PLU/aqua/fags to communicate... we are despised in this world? hmm interesting... you sound a lot like the raradicalized muslim suicide bombers who blew up London. I dont want to be 'turned' straight (through what? Re-education camps sounds very communist chinese already) I love being gay and I am proud that I am.. you must be so ashamed and as need professional clinical care.
What would you know about Pagans? I am sure then you would know that when the Romans came to Britain they brought Christanity and then slaughtered all the Pagans and druids as 'non-beleivers'. Whas this ethnic cleansing? Similiar to Kosovo, Bosnia, Iraq, the crusades? You religion is a lie, all this devil talk. 'god' and jesus on the cross taking away the sins of the world is now folk law.
What is your personal experience or knowledge of HIV/Aids? You are aware that the old testament is Jewish Law your idiot....
This is the 21st century, an age of science not this crock of shit.
Now enough of all this crazy talk... looking at your profile I can tell already you spend many lonely nights trying to find solitude. Your a raving gay, go out down to the local gay bar, shake your tight virgin ass and pull. Or I am going to fly over there and shag you.
Im bored of this and you... Fridae is not about this.
Im heading off to Soho and living a real life... find yours crazyman
I think you have spoke to the wrong audience. The questions in post 29 should be given to the fundamentalists. As for my posts, my audience is the fundamentalists too. (Some exgay fundies crept into fridae...do you believe?) So please no offence.
Note:
On the Day of Judgement, two angels carried londongeezer before God. Londongeezer knelt before Him. God spoke:' londongeezer, I have sent crazyman to speak to you about the Truth. I AM your Savior and a Homo. Why didn't you believe?'
you are targeting the wrong audience here. this is not the place for it as mentioned by londongeezer. what makes you think there are exgay fundies here?
please take whatever doctrine you believe in somewhere else. you are not a messenger from god, so snap out of it!
You should say that to fridae editors. Fridae has been so obsessed with negative news of church, their doctrines and how they bash gay, and how gays spread HIV, month after month. You should therefore tell them not to report anything about religion, church and their negative influence on gay rights in the coming twelve months. And I know there are some exgay fundies crept in to become one of the fridae editors to deceive many too.
In the multitude of counselors there is safety. I just speak the Truth.
go gay marraige rights,yay!
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