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Didn't even know there are gay spas in Malacca. I wonder why guys can't wrap themselves in towels and be naked at the open shower area. Are they supposed to wear sarongs?

wonder what kind of sick parents would try to get their son into trouble...or what kind of guy would inform on the Spa..a jilted ugly ?
Just shows you that Malaysia is way behind the times...not a good place for relaxed holiday...or pink dolllars ?

'Some of them were also found naked in one of the spas' open shower area' -----> WTF? Is there something wrong bathing naked in an OPEN shower? What are we suppose to do the? Wear cloths when bathing?

so many gays in malaysia, so many malay are gay, its all part of reality. Religious belief are they are real.

"We conducted surveillance on both centres for about a week".
I bet that was a challenging assignment for those unfortunate policemen. Do you think they volunteered?

so... is there anything wrong about being in a towel? those poor guys at the gym!!! no towels allowed. :P

no point in saying illegal gay spas, there is 'legal' gay spas in malaysia anyways. That foreign student is a pussy and quite obviously retarded beyond belief. All said and done.

It is Malaysian / Islamic hypocrisy all over again. When they want to nap you, everything and anything can be conveniently deem illegal.
It is usual practice here. I do not think that there are 'legal' spas in Malaysia as all spas will be subject to raids for activities which are considered 'haram' (Islamic term for 'sinful') at any time. And male sex is definitlely high up on the list. The authorities are particularly sensitive to the issue as they strive to have a 'clean' image of the country. They are particularly sensitive to tipp-off and complaints and in particular to this one; as it probably from Muslim parents. We should not use non Islamic attitudes to judge actions by Islamic authorities for what they feel is religiously justiable. What these spa operators should do is to disallow all muslims from entering their premises either as employees or as patrons. In this way, the Islamic departments will not be involved. Once they are involved, everything becomes hyper sensitive. It is always a thin line between religious and civil law. The former applies to muslims and the latter to non muslims. I think all Malaysians should know and understand this and try to work out what can be done and cannot be done. I think that as long as no muslims are involved in such activities, authorities (within limits) will tend to turn a blind eye.

Id like to see a day when all these 'illegal', 'immoral' and haram spas are liberalized. Oh wait, my mistake!

I think there might be a problem with denying entry to Muslims, presumably after a Mykad check at the door. Somebody would be bound to get upset when denied the chance to get his rocks off, and the next thing you know there's another tip-off from a 'concerned, outraged citizen', meaning a Muslim gay who's seriously pissed off because he can't get enough. Few things equal the malignant power of sexual frustration.

ya lah, that parents is century parents(boring mind set) ,,
just feel bad for them. wish u guys selamat..

I agree with Sisyphus12. Over here in Singapore we have cases of gays more than willing to tarnish the entire community just to ease his personal grudges against... organisations, so that scenario which he had described is not far-fetched at all.

in the first place, the spa is illegal, that mean its not licensed!! they are many unlicensed spas - str8 & gays, in the country, so to speak, it got nothing to do with Islamic practice....
the guy probably is an ugly pussy who got turned down all too often by other guys in that place. probably too his school's result was really bad that his excuse to his parents was his preoccupation with the spa....now you know why no students for me...hehehe

"That foreign student is a pussy and quite obviously retarded beyond belief. All said and done."

"the guy probably is an ugly pussy who got turned down all too often by other guys in that place. probably too his school's result was really bad that his excuse to his parents was his preoccupation with the spa....now you know why no students for me... hehehe"

Gee, why are people jumping on the foreign student? The article says nothing about him being the tell tale. And his parents could have well trailed him or something... Why the venom?

if they have no lic understand it being illegal or legal place.

But what makes a gay spa different from str8 one.. for these ppl they may want or wait for all their GRO girls finish work or finish spa session during day time and mb nite after hard day work most customers and ppl working are guys.. So it must be gay place..

if location has no lic understand by why wait till nite time ?
why not go during office hours and shut the place down or the malay looking to see who they get contact numbers for fun times without being seen on gay sights etc etc

It's well-known that the police force in Malaysia is complete rubbish and utterly useless. Raids such as this only underscore the reality that they have nothing better to do with their time. Bit pathetic, really.

There are tons of other things police can do - Track down criminals and murderers, corruptions, etc.
What a waste of people's tax money!

"During the raid at 9pm, we found most of the men in both spas clad in towels. Some of them were also found naked in one of the spas' open shower area,"

Uh, so fucking what?

One of the reasons that gay guys, especially from Australia do not travel or stay in Malaysia is this attitude that gays and gay sex, in this case in private in a sauna, are illegal and or immoral.
This type of attitude is a throw back to when the British were controlling
Malaya, and unfortunatly when the country took over the control of their
own country this straight laced attitude was continued on.
As it is now 2010 it is a pity that such outmoded attitudes continue
against gays.
I personally like Malaysia but I only visit Thailand and Cambodia etc as I do not wish to put up with being told that gay people are sex is amoral.
Pedro

It's a pity people blame the British for this law-it would have been there in the sharia law even if the British had never gone to Malaya.
The British repealed laws against private gay sex in 1967 two years after they pulled Malaysia out of the shit caused by the Communist insurgency.
Malaysia is corrupt and inefficient but it is charming and much cheaper than Sg and safer than Thailand. Be discreet if you want fun. Pay your money or no pay and take your choice lah.

Opps, spa owners forgot to pay taxes to the relevant authority.

The news story is not complete as whoever posted this news clip in Fridae.com only took the gay part of it. The full story is only provided by clicking the link, in which I doubt most people would click it in the first place. The continuation of the news clip revealed that the authority also raided two pubs and two budget hotels where they had also detained unmarried Muslim couples (straight, of course). So, who would want to champion the straight people? It is good that the gay spa is raided as this kind of place reduces sex to a mere recreational activity instead of a testament of love.

Thank you 'ferribal' above. We Brits may have had these silly laws but they were repealed, and whereas you have The Straights Times in Singapore/Malaysia we have Gay Times in the UK.(LOL)

Duhhh

That's what happen when you mix cock with religion- Cock Book that tells us that Muslim Gay men must bathe fully dressed. Amen

I was in Melaka 6 months ago and wish I had known of these spas! I was so frus and horny!

with all due respect but if str8 men do not go to a spa to have sex with a woman why do gay men? and dont give me the conservative environment and therefore no place to meet men or place to play bull. budget hotels are everywhere. the day when a gay man works, speaks, behaves like any str8 people is the day we as a community will be respected.

Thanks but str8 guys are out picking up prostitutes or having fun. The day men can have the same rights as the str8 people will be the day of respect

Wait I am wrong there are no gay man in Malaysia. Right?

why dont they license and regulate them otherwise the authorities will have to exterminate all the gay people living there.
as usual the authorities dont know what common sense is for making decisions in these backward countries!

Religion has no business in people's private lives or state matters. Until that changes it will be hard.
Mind you even in West is not easy.
Except in west they cover the religious motive under the "family values' name.

I, for one, don't like those places, but if people want to engage in consensual sex is their business.

But this raid is ridiculous as that situation happens daily in any western gym. (men naked in open showers).

If they were caught in some sex act.... what then? stoning to death?

For the over thirty members whom had gone thru this raid, my sympathy..there is nothing wrong for being gay,still be proud of yourself though.
guys, straight or gay, in this country the police is good for nothing but conducting raids like this, they often raid the straight places too. if you do not wish to land in this kind of humilating situation just avoid the spa and sauna in malaysia, drag your men home or, go to the bath houses out of malaysia.

thats the reason i don't go to gay spa anymore .. just do it outdoor with bunch of friends at secluded and private area.. huhu

well. like or dislike...so many PLU now, don't interfere with the religion....

This is a sad comment on Malaysia. But, friends, beware the anger against the student. And forget about the guy's looks! We are supposed to be members of a gay COMMUNITY and sticking together against oppression. We get a lot of this in the UK where "prettiness" may be the passport to "success". But the trend is towards ridiculing other people... including perhaps, disabled gays, gays with learning difficulties, deaf gays, elderly gays (guilty, LOL!), etc, etc. Don't go with the crowd and avoid what one person rightly called "venom". God bless you all and safe and happy hunting... and when considering religion just remember - God LOVES true lovers and is wearied by those who express hatred!

It is the sickness of the times, liking this kind of action to Nazis to those they disagreed with. Sadly we must always remember that those who attack in what ever form are most likely jealous in every form.

There will always be people like this, sad but true. Religion is often just a cover for a seething hatred. Shows the true nature of many of these people who attack.

I think we shouldnt be unhappy over this incident. These spas are illegal spas and the only service they provide is easy sex...Are u guys telling me that gays support free sex ??? If not, then its better that we dont have spas. Cause being gay is not all about sex...we need to realise of the dangers of easy sex with the proliferation of drugs, HIV and many other STDs which unfortunately have struck our gay society more than any other societies.

Just face the fact. Its true but its painful truth isnt it??

As I explained earlier, it's pointless to fight for gay rights in this Islamic state which obviously hasn't learned to respect personal freedom despite having adopted English law, English language for business and education, and aspired to become a developed nation . Gays in Malaysia, if they really wish to enjoy more personal freedom, should have "fun" overseas, either by making frequent overseas trips, or emigrating.

We have seen how far the Malaysian authorities would go to police gays. These gay men had NOT disturbed members of the public and children by purposely going to an exclusively gay spa. There was NO victim; NO straight adults or children had been disturbed, seduced, molested or raped. Yet, the authorities wouldn't spare them. Even privacy within the compound gays had created for themselves by themselves is not respected.

Homophobic religions suck...

Oh, well done Malaysian police for devoting your time to such serious crimes. You must feel very proud of yourselves for bringing these 'criminals' to justice (obviously said tongue in cheek).

Why don't the police get out and solve real problems instead of devoting themselves to these victimless crimes. What a waste of their time.

And, by the way, Keto - your comment is extremely homophobic and paints a picture of all gays behaving in one way and all straights behaving in another. Is this really true? And, even assuming all gays and all straights did behave in particular ways, why do you imply that gay people should try and behave like straights'? Is that the aim? Why can't people just be themselves? Your comments are simplistic, narrow minded and really frustrate me.

i'd say the deviates her are the muslim authorities and their cheering section of hypocrites with their harems of wives, medieval outlook and supression of women. if you have a business, stay out of malaysia.

What is the big issue here. Go to any of the spas in the international hotels...these is a male section and a female section. In the male section you will find males freely parading naked in their own space, walking naked or clad in a towel walking from the locker rooms to the shower/steamroom/sauna or vice versa or taking a dip in the spa pool entirely naked. Watch out Mandarin Oriental, Hilton KL, etc. you are next. The there are also the gym locker rooms next to be hit. I guess the police have nothing else to do but raid male locker rooms. I think they are the ones who really have a problem about male nudity.

What is the big issue here. Go to any of the spas in the international hotels...these is a male section and a female section. In the male section you will find males freely parading naked in their own space, walking naked or clad in a towel walking from the locker rooms to the shower/steamroom/sauna or vice versa or taking a dip in the spa pool entirely naked. Watch out Mandarin Oriental, Hilton KL, etc. you are next. The there are also the gym locker rooms next to be hit. I guess the police have nothing else to do but raid male locker rooms. I think they are the ones who really have a problem about male nudity.

I wonder which one is a priority?

A drug addict at one of the alleys of the spas

Or....

Listening to some pompous parent whose still in denial of a sons sexuality?

We dont need nannies to police their lives....what that country needs is an army of Super Nannies to clean up the real problems....corruption and racial intolerance

Yep. Muslim hipocrisy (and outrageous stupidity) is killing this country and the world. Apparently doing Yoga is also an offence for these infidels.

Where's the Allah in this society?

The police don't seem to have much to do.

The police don't seem to have much to do. it is not about religion.

Besides those Gay Issues, talking about other things in the country...It's hopeless and speechless from the people as well...

Totally homophobia case indeed. So should the police catch those soldiers who shower together in the open shower area????!!!!

Every time I see articles like this, I come one step closer to leaving the country.

and why are they illegal? Are there legal gay spa's? I guess Malaysia is stuck in the third world human right's mentality and needs to get their heads out of their asses

thats suck ^^

I think there should be an informed freedom of choice in terms of recreational sex - as someone above mentioned, why should we gay people aspire to be like the straight ones? There is nothing wrong in (safe) recreational sex and btw straight people do it all the time - they have prostitutes, they keep lovers and extramarital affairs, and in Islam especially sex for pleasure is allowed - with your multiple wives and also with an unlimited number of your female slaves, even if they are already married to somebody else (the Quran 4.24 and several other verses are quite clear on that one). Muhammad also allowed his soldiers to rape captive women, as is clear from the hadiths. So much for Islamic justice and sexual restraint. That is why, unlike in Christianity, using condoms to avoid pregnancy is generally ok with Islamic authorities.

Raiding an unlicensed venue is also ridiculous - if a bar or a restaurant in a West is unlicensed the authorities may demand immediate closure, but will not come at an unlikely hour to arrest the staff or customers. Obviously other things were here at stake - in Malaysia consensual sex between people of the same sex is against the law.

Such a sad story really.

Gay, what's the wrong we are human begin as well many of the man are looking for sex as fun, we are looking for our love one to share our live at the same time many of female also looking for sex as fun what wrong for us as gay government should issue marriage certificate for us as Lee Kuan Yew also not against us !