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6 Aug 2012

Gay pastor and partner hold wedding banquet in Kuala Lumpur

Openly gay author and pastor Rev. Oyoung Wen Feng, who legally married his partner Phineas Newborn III on Aug 31 last year in New York, hosted a wedding banquet in downtown Kuala Lumpur last Saturday.

Openly gay author and pastor Rev. Oyoung Wen Feng, who legally married his partner Phineas Newborn III on Aug 31 – Malaysia's Independence Day – last year in New York, hosted a wedding banquet in downtown Kuala Lumpur last Saturday.

News of Malaysia-born Oyoung's marriage made the headlines in his home country and internationally last year as did the banquet on Aug 4 with a leading local Chinese-language newspaper Sinchew showing a 3-minute news video on its Internet channel on Youtube.

Last year, the New York-based pastor announced and affirmed his intention to hold a wedding banquet in Malaysia this year despite criticism by a Malaysian politician. "I believe, I deserve at least this very right to share my joy with my friends by dining together, even in Malaysia," said Oyoung who has mainly lived in the US since 1998 although he returns to regularly to Malaysia and other Asian countries to speak at churches and at secular events.

Top of page: Rev. Oyoung Wen Feng with Phineas Newborn III. Middle pic: The couple with Oyoung's mother at the banquet.

In an email to Fridae, Rev. Oyoung, whose real name is Ngeo Boon Lin, acknowledged that his mother’s attendance at the dinner "meant a lot" to him.

Held at a Chinese restaurant Berjaya Time Square, the dinner was attended by some 250 people including his aunts and cousins as well as friends from Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and the US where the couple now lives.

The 42-year-old former newspaper columnist "came out" as gay publicly in 2006 and says it’s important to him that he didn’t marry in secret despite being subjected to criticism by the public and Malaysian politicians.

He says he hopes his wedding “inspires others to do the same.”

He told Fridae: “It stimulates their imaginations, it helps people to understand if we are not afraid, we can live our lives authentically, because of fear, we can be our worst enemies. More often than not, we defeat ourselves way before others attack us.

“It helps straight people realise our love is not a shame and we are not guilty of our love. If we keep it as a secret, like it or not, people would assume that we are ashamed of ourselves. I want to inspire others, not only on love matters, but on everything we do. If we are not afraid, we can dream the impossible dreams. We are in fact more powerful than we think we are!”

The pair is now in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam on their honeymoon. "I am having my honeymoon in Vietnam because I believe Vietnam will be the first country in Southeast Asia to legalise gay marriage," he added. 

When asked if he plans to continue living in the US or return to Malaysia, he said he is “planning to come back to Asia, and seeking opportunities to work in Asia, and (his) partner knows very well that (his) heart is in Asia.”

He says he has spent at least three months a year for the past three years travelling between Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and China on lecture tours. He is scheduled to appear/speak at a Popular book store in Kuching on Aug 9 (Thu) and 10 (Fri), Good Samaritan Metropolitan Community Church (GSMCC) on Aug 12 (Sun), Taipei (dates to be confirmed), BookFest at KLCC at 2pm on Aug 18, and Free Community Church Singapore and a book launch at Prologue Ion Orchard on Aug 19.

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Reader's Comments

1. 2012-08-06 14:43  
blessings to both of you. so good to have had a chance to meet you.
2. 2012-08-06 16:58  
I've often asked myself what the psyche (or psychosis) is behind the need for public spectacles such as this and whether or not it would have made a greater impact on humanity if Mr & Mr Ouyong Newborn III had married without pomp or ceremony and used the money they would have otherwise saved to kick-start a campaign to build, say, half-way houses for HIV-infected kids who've been abandoned by their families in India and China?
3. 2012-08-06 17:28  
Heemale, do you wonder about the "psyche (or psychosis)" of all the millions or billions of (opposite-sex) couples who married in a public ceremony or just the marriage of Oyoung and his husband?
4. 2012-08-06 17:41  
Bravo Heemale, well said.
5. 2012-08-06 17:49  
Bravo kellen, well said!
6. 2012-08-06 17:50  
I would think that his being a pastor at a US evangelical church has something to do with this. What I know of US evangelical churches is that they take it upon themselves to proselytize heavily, and this can take the form of mass rallies, emotionally charged speeches about hell-fire and sin and salvation, etc etc, and this peculiarly American phenomenon called televangelism. This gesture of his, going on a honeymoon in Vietnam because he thinks it "will be the first country in Southeast Asia to legalise gay marriage," makes me suspect he's also taken on board what seems to me to be a very American habit of blurring the boundaries between your personal life (and your personality) and whatever ideologies or causes you happen to espouse. I think this is also a trait of American-style evangelical Christianity. In short, he's trying to turn aspects of his life into so many political/ideological statements. He's probably also trying to export US-style gay activism.

I think we can have any number of different opinions as to whether or not all this is a good thing for this part of the world.

The question of whether the couple could have made better use of the money spent on the wedding dinner is I think not very moot. The wedding dinner could very well have been self-financing because most guests (the Chinese ones anyway) would have come with a hongbao of an appropriate sum. Anyway, they've chosen to put their money/effort into what they've chosen to put their money/effort into. The international marketplace of good causes is huge.
Comment edited on 2012-08-06 17:52:01
7. 2012-08-06 17:52  
Kellen, the article is about the Ouyong-Newborn spectacle so, no, I've not wondered about opposite-sex couples because it's not likely that what opposite-sex couples do is something that I'd ever want for myself.
Comment #8 was deleted by its author on 2012-08-17 18:12
9. 2012-08-06 19:02  
Heemale, in case there's any doubt, this isn't about you.

Congrats and a toast to Oyoung and Phineas for having the courage and for showing all the gay and lesbians youths that it can be done!
10. 2012-08-06 21:22  
Ethomofactuse,

I like your comment on Oyoung's wedding. At least it make one to think the possible REAL intention of Oyoung.......
11. 2012-08-06 21:22  
Ethomofactuse,

I like your comment on Oyoung's wedding. At least it make one to think the possible REAL intention of Oyoung.......
12. 2012-08-06 22:51  
bravo..........im impressed
13. 2012-08-06 23:18  
Congrats to the couple. You are actually one of a handful of such ceremonies that have been done previously in Malaysia - the others may not have made the news, but they are couples who were married legally (in a foreign country) and had family and friends to celebrate and watch a video of the legal ceremony back here in Kuala Lumpur etc. I wish you both the best.
14. 2012-08-06 23:26  
Publicity seeking queens.
So American , doing all the publicity shit just to sell some books or sell something that will benefit themselves.

The wedding is a joke , freaks , why not just keep it private and stop making fools of themselves...

Freaks ....
15. 2012-08-07 00:06  
Congrats to them! Sharing their happiness with their friends and family is a good thing.
16. 2012-08-07 00:37  
Congrats! He is brave to do so in Malaysia, which is still so conservative about gay.
17. 2012-08-07 01:13  
Madeasia, I couldn't agree more. What good is a wedding banquet to humanity at large? Who knows? But, hype and publicity for its own sake is as self-defeating as a wank. If you love someone, why would you need to make a public spectacle of it?
18. 2012-08-07 07:02  
If you dare not do it don't ever judge other.
If they get publicity they deserved it not of Yours.
We LGBT here to bless each other in other to
have a better life! Many star8
have been look down on us and tease us but
LGBT is the most Caring kind.
We should make this world a better life for all.
19. 2012-08-07 07:05  
Congratulation and God Bless to both. Cheers and thanks!
20. 2012-08-07 07:18  
So nice, so happy for the both of you.
Hopefully, one day it will be my turn;
yet to find a sincere and honest partner.

All the very best.
21. 2012-08-07 08:26  
congrats & may God bless u both!!! *thumbs up* ^^
22. 2012-08-07 09:06  
@ heemale
It is one thing to not want a wedding banquet of this nature for ourselves... another thing entirely to conjecture that it is 'psychosis' for others to want this.

http://www.thubtenchodron.org/DailyLifeDharma/speaking_of_the_faults_of_others.html



In the youtube clip above, Ouyang is explicitly conscious about the political implications of his banquet, and about the unprecedented joy he has in celebrating this with his elderly family and his friends, and the potential this publicity can have in changing hearts and minds of others. So yes: this is his explicit political message.

Whether we agree with his message or not is another point entirely, but it is hard to fault him by suggesting that he is being sneaky, when he is actually quite transparent about his multiple motivations.

What's clear is that there is a lot of pain here:
Not all of us have the freedom, the wealth, the courage, or the family support to celebrate our love or our relationships like Ouyang has. So let us continue to support one another as we continue to build a world where this is more and more possible.
23. 2012-08-07 09:16  
@Ethomofactuses

You wrote: "[I] suspect he's also taken on board what seems to me to be a very American habit of blurring the boundaries between your personal life (and your personality) and whatever ideologies or causes you happen to espouse. I think this is also a trait of American-style evangelical Christianity. In short, he's trying to turn aspects of his life into so many political/ideological statements. He's probably also trying to export US-style gay activism. "

and

"I think we can have any number of different opinions as to whether or not all this is a good thing for this part of the world."

Really appreciate your thoughts there. :)
24. 2012-08-07 09:47  
I have to disagree with you, nenihs84, in exercise of my right to have my own opinion and to have it heard despite what you or anyone else may think. Just because you personally believe that something is right or good, doesn't mean that you are entitled to bully others into silence even if you believe that you represent the majority voice in this forum.

I still stand by my personal view : This kind of hype and publicity makes the whole thing a ridiculous public spectacle and a sitting duck for the Billy Grahams or Mitt Romneys of mainstream society to justify drawing their weapons and fire at will. It does NO good whatsoever for HUMANITY at large (NOT just the LGBT community) and is, obviously, an attempt to make a political statement in this part of the world that is NOT YET ready to embrace or celebrate the concept of gay marriage.

This is just my personal view, nenihs84, and I'm entitled to express it as much as you and the rest of those who support your views are. So, just leave it at that and end your cyber bullying. It's neither becoming nor gentlemanly nor very effective in making someone else see things your way.
Comment edited on 2012-08-07 11:00:22
25. 2012-08-07 09:52  
The public display and celebration of our love is exceedingly important for all the young people to see who may feel isolated and alone. Not everyone can be a "heemale", most live quiet lives of desperation I've read someplace before. As long as a political hegemony can sequester us into the dark corners of obscurity, we can be successfully reviled and our human rights be denied. But when we are publicly and openly happy and demonstrative about our lives, we cannot be painted as evil or sick because seeing is believing. Help the sick yes, but celebrate life and love.
26. 2012-08-07 09:56  
I might be skeptical, but you sure their PM or that di** head who say LGBT is a bla bla bla a few months ago will let this going on to the public just like that?

anyway, congrats!
27. 2012-08-07 10:04  
@heemale --> I support your right to state your opinion, just as I am sure you support my right to disagree with your views too. We can mutually disagree without its becoming acrimonious.

I'm not sure how what I said or how I said it was cyberbullying?

Peace
Comment edited on 2012-08-07 10:06:01
28. 2012-08-07 10:06  
Oh, also, a cute image:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
Comment #29 was deleted by its author on 2012-08-07 12:45
30. 2012-08-07 10:22  
The powers that be in Malaysia are probably more involved with the olympics right now...and what can they do later? This couple will not be living in Malaysia - they will return to New York, thereby negating any backlash...to them...and who knows what will happen...if anything...for the LGBT community because of this in Malaysia...wait and see I guess...
31. 2012-08-07 11:15  
This is just another case of one culture impinging on another. Ouyang Wen Feng comes with his background in US evangelical Christianity and gay activism and sets himself up as a catalyst for change in Malaysian society, advocating gay rights, equality in terms of sexual orientation, everybody coming out of the closet etc etc.

Clearly there are segments of society here which feel uncomfortable with this sort of thing - perhaps not so much with 'gay rights' as such as with some flamboyant half-insider half-outsider coming here and pulling off such an in your face stunt.

At the end of the day, I think this will be remembered as but a minor blip in the struggle of the gay community here for fairness and acceptance. I have far more respect for the people who run the seksualiti merdeka movement, and pink triangle. These are people who are in touch with what's happening on the ground, and who are doing concrete and useful things, working for change from within.

I agree with people here who find Ouyang's gesture somewhat tasteless. I have no issue with the couple getting married and all and wanting to celebrate their union with family and friends here or anywhere else. But turning this whole thing into a publicity stunt and presuming to be the voice of the gay commmunity here is a bit much.


Comment edited on 2012-08-07 11:16:49
32. 2012-08-07 12:25  
Hear, hear, Ethomofactuses!

In my personal view, your statement, "I have no issue with the couple getting married and all and wanting to celebrate their union with family and friends here or anywhere else. But turning this whole thing into a publicity stunt and presuming to be the voice of the gay commmunity here is a bit much", is absolutely spot on!

The LGBT people who work towards change from within are indeed the unsung heroes of our community. They absolutely do not need public spectacles like this to jeopardise years upon years of hard work and effort. This sort of public display, to me, reeks of some personal, political agenda that Ouyang, perhaps, harbours but, whatever the motivation behind it, it has, in my view, made the LGBT community in this part of the world a sitting duck for religious fundamentalists and right-wing governments to make a meal out of.

33. 2012-08-07 13:30  
Congratulations to the happy couple !
34. 2012-08-07 13:30  
Congratulations to the happy couple !
35. 2012-08-07 14:53  
Congratulations to the couple, but i do wonder at the motivation of making such a public spectacle of it all... however up to them :-)
36. 2012-08-07 16:30  
yoh..
37. 2012-08-07 18:28  
Congratulations to the couple, and thanks for demonstrating that there are gay people in Malaysia that have wide support from family and friends.
38. 2012-08-07 19:23  
Heemale, ethOmofactuses, gwninstK etc....well that is exactly the point....this publicity stunt of a wedding is so in your face that it will probably be seen as a joke anyway ....

Gay people do not need to conform to such "straight world " practices do we ? .... Ild rather have tax benefits and other more important recognition than such meaningless / pointless gestures.

The pastor felt it meaningful that his mother and family was there.... Talk about selfish and the need for being a centre of attraction .
The mother most likely had no choice but choose to be there after all it's the son ...but it's another matter if she actually agrees with this so called marriage to begin with....being most likely a traditionalist herself.

This pastor ought to spend his time evangelizing to the many bigots in his holy domain in his adopted homeland instead of spreading his nonsense in Asia ( + Vietnam ) ....or are those people in the USA not listening to him ??

This has nothing to do with glbt movement in Asia ...it's to do with his personal agenda and the need for recognition in a world ie his world which is more than likely to be hostile towards him.

I wonder should this "MARRIAGE" break up will there be another banquet held in it's honour ?

freaks .
Comment edited on 2012-08-07 19:28:02
39. 2012-08-07 19:33  
And Also , mr celebrity pastor ouyang now married probably having kids soon ...reverend .... Remember this is ASIA ..... We have our values and ours ways of doing things ....don't come here with all your Americanized practices and stuff it down our throats ....have respect please.

If you don't have any for yourself , at least spare a thought to others .

40. 2012-08-07 22:40  
The poster "ethomofactusest", or more accurately, "et homo factus est" , has chosen an interesting name. This is a phrase from the Catholic ( and Anglican) creed, which refers to God being made flesh, in the form of Jesus.

Some disingenuous trolling going on here, unless someone at Fridae is just trying to stir up debate ;)
Comment #41 was deleted by its author on 2012-08-08 13:24
42. 2012-08-08 06:33  
Well done Oyoung! As a journalist himself, he probably knows a few more of these gay wedding banquets will gradually turn the "controversial" headlines to no news. Although many of his fellow countrymen may disagree with him and gay marriage now.
43. 2012-08-08 07:06  
Here ale, I was thinking the same thing? Why the Pastor need to be so loud?
44. 2012-08-08 07:41  
....doesn't the wife or husband or whatever look alot like Lena Horne ? !!
That's Lena Horne , so maybe this reverend pastor " oyoung " or what ever his real name is ....did marry a woman after all......
45. 2012-08-08 08:16  
Hmmm, by all means say you disagree with his actions and why, but it's not civilized to make snide remarks and attack someone like this.
46. 2012-08-08 09:18  
@#45
It's not a personal attack neither was it meant to be snide ...that wasn't my intention .
I really do think he looks like Lena Horne !
Or at the very least a very close resemblance ....

I honestly think so.
47. 2012-08-08 13:13  
...and now more and more govt ministers are speaking out against this wedding reception and all gays in Malaysia who actually live in Malaysia. Bringing religion n hate from all sides into the issue...what mess has been left behind for others to clean up n face??
48. 2012-08-08 16:35  
Isn't this all about political message? Goverment ministers and mainstream society are talking about the issue now. At least this could get people to start thinking.
49. 2012-08-08 23:55  
http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/lena-horne-picture-14247673.htm
50. 2012-08-10 20:12  
Good thing to get it out in the open
Malaysia like all other country has over10% gays
These hateful religious freaks better get that in thier head
51. 2012-08-10 20:13  
Good thing to get it out in the open
Malaysia like all other country has over10% gays
These hateful religious freaks better get that in thier head
52. 2012-08-12 18:00  
congratulation...
53. 2012-08-13 00:46  
I am not against all the comments posted here to exercise the right to write their personal expression. May the newly wed couple will live longer and love each other more than 100 years and beyond...
54. 2012-08-16 14:54  
Without publicity I wouldnt know there are gay marriages. Without publicity, I would have thought I am the only person in this world that has a different sexual preference from norm. Without publicity, I am in total darknest. So publicity is good to me. Regardless of their motives, its sweet and heart warming to see one can marry his love one under the blessing of others. Straight always believe gay people are badly reputed for changing sexual partners. This is to show them, gay people can be serious in love and there is no different from straight.

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