In the video, members of Manifested Glory Ministries, a Bridgeport, Connecticut-based church are seen standing over a 16-year-old boy, performing an exorcism and demanding that the “homosexual spirit” leaves the teenager as he screams and writhes on the ground.
"You sex demon... you snake!"
Although the video is believed to have been taken six or seven months ago, major news outlets including CNN only began to report on it on Thursday.
The church’s pastor, Patricia McKinney, told CNN that the boy approached her and asked for help with his struggle against his sexuality. According to her, the ritual was a “casting out of unclean spirits” rather than an exorcism, and similar events have happened in the church before.
Speaking with the Associated Press, she said: "We believe a man should be with a woman and a woman should be with a man. We have nothing against homosexuals. I just don't agree with their lifestyle."
"I think it's horrifying," Robin McHaelen, executive director of True Colors, told the Associated Press, referring to the video posted by Manifested Glory's now-defunct YouTube page. "What saddens me is the people that are doing this think they are doing something in the kid's best interests, when in fact they're murdering his spirit."
The controversial video on Youtube has since been removed by the church.
FOX News report
Manifested Glory Ministries Exorcism Video
Related articles:
Gay exorcism video abuse or freedom of religion (Examiner.com, Jun 25)
Apparent Gay Exorcism in Conn. Church Causes Outrage (LATimes.com, Jun 25)
Video of church's 'casting out' gay 'demon' in teen sparks anger (CNN, Jun 25)
讀者回應
After watching the video, I've come up with the conclusion that perhaps those who aren't happy with the fact that they are gay should go for this roll-on-the-floor-while-screaming-therapy.
You know, I know some kids who do the same routine whenever they go to Toys 'R' Us.
Perhaps they can use the same ritual whenever they don't get that promotion they wanted, their dad didn't buy them a car for their graduation, they lost a gf/bf/wife/fiancee', etc.
Cynicism and sarcasm aside, if the 16-year-old did this willingly, then I wish him well and hope the "homosexual demons" have gone away. Hopefully the white cloths, rolling on the floor and screaming while having someone yell at you in a church heals your soul and helps you with your conflict.
But if he was forced to do it by anyone, then shame on them.
If this is what some God fearing folk believe then I am even happier that I chose atheism as the sensible alternative to dangerous nonsense like this.
I'm disgusted with what religion does to people.
I'm also disgusted with what people does with religion.
It's abuse of a minor, like in some of those "Jesus Camps", but this looks worse.
Good for this teenager! Hopefully they convinced the sexually oppressed %$#@! up church leaders that they were now 'cured'. Years later an eventually well adjusted former floor writhing queer adult will have a great story to tell how they fooled their oppressive elders!
second, there is a spiritual world, something that almost all Asians would agree on. who is in charge, and what manner of spirits is involved, and whether u believe in what's going on, is up to you. though i wouldn't recommend it, u only have to go to some chinese temples here to see some writhing that is quite bizarre and unnerving, to me. but some here may subscribe to that, and in this case, some westerners may also find an occasion for exotic tourism instead. of course, if there is any coercion in ANY religion, then yes, there is wrong.
third, we are such complex psychological and individual creatures that, if truth be told, we often don't even fully understand ourselves, or even our emotions. if u r perfectly happy being "gay" or "bi" or "straight", then fine. if not, you have the right to make adjustments, if you so choose to. you have the right to not be streamlined or stereotyped or polarised into any singular description. isn't that fair?
it seems to me that from one's youth, one is always being forced to join one tribe or another, to fall under one description or another. that is politics, not religion. yes, in the US, the religious right has caused much hurt to the LGBT community. even jimmy carter doesn't agree with their "politics". we are all human beings first... except maybe Julia Roberts. she's an orang hutan babe. i hope u're smiling...
I don't believe God discriminates. everyone has missed the mark. everyone. He just looks at the heart, and one day, we will ALL see that. All. cheers
jesus is the fraud in the first place creating a homosexual/these preachers.
Some of these churches (well, 99% of them) are congreations of people with severe mental disorders.
To be able to engage or even watch such kind of ritual, you really have to be disconnected from reality.
They should be criminally charged, in the name of their beliefs they're doing absolutely hedious and hurtful things.
can't people just leave religion at home and approach it with balance?
i guess not. Hail the sacred pink unicorn.
Jihad to the pinkos!
The sad thing is that this kid came to the church willingly. Here's a dirty little secret: African American culture is more homophobic than Asian culture. In this kid's mind, he was probably desperately trying to find a way to fit in. Let's not focus on being gay or the ... ridiculous religions. How can we reach out to kids who are growing up in cultures (African American, Amish, Hasidic Jewish, whatever) and, quite frankly, 'worlds' where they just don't know that there might be a 'third way'. He might not have sought out exorcism if he had a counselor to tell him, "you're FINE!"
Yeah, what a contradiction.
This kid, maybe gay, maybe not, maybe attention-seeking, ... who knows, he chose to approach his church and have this 'service' done. His problem, not ours; why does anybody care? His church didn't invade his home or his school. It was his choice.
Our friend 'Rainer-Werne' decides that the apt comment is "land of the free."
Now, what the hell does he mean by that? I'm no George Bush fan, flag pin on my coat, singing the anthem, etc. But I am a yank, and I do mind that attempted dig at my country for an individual act. Criticize the country, yes. Throw out a one-liner with no context: huh?
And then a teenager in Singapore adds, "yeah, what a contradiction."
Excuse me, but has anything been said at all? 1) The US government didn't do anything, 2) no American church invaded privacy, and 3) this kid clearly has problems almost as severe and psychotic as the church he went to for help. Where's the fascism?
Lokies, go reform your own 'soft dictatorship' first. Rainer-Werne, the British coined the term "F.I.L.T.H." (Failed in London; try Hong Kong) for a reason; look into it.
Can we actually make arguments or interpretations with facts and not just machine gun one-line comments?
This kid is sick and he went to a sick church. It happens in Asia every day.
A person's sexuality is born from(most probably) family condition during growth. The people who should be "exorcised" should be the parents, not the inner demons inside kids. The kids turned to such thanks to the parenting he received, not by some nonsense demon which claimed to have possessed the kids. Confused, they tend to seek help from the one they think they can depend on. The church sure have strange ways to make one feel "Better", though i really don't think i'd work anyway.
Besides, if being kicked and stepped on, yelled and shamed at, in tongue language that doesn't make any sense at all, while te patient writhes on the floor will cure anything at all, then who need doctors and WHO, ya?
Anyway Christianity condemns homosexuality wat they are doing is according to the original teachings set by the church. I repeat, its the rules of the church worldwide.
Some Churches will accept homosexuality only because they want more believers. Cuz:
More believers = More $$ Donations. Got it??
And by the way, who loves to be humilated in public in the name of exorcism where the fat lady, pardon, pastor in yellow shirt step her foot on the poor boy's tummy? He would a matter of fact puked.
....Bruno ! ....lol
No...that would be S&M. It's only an exorcism if it involves a minister in a church....
Wait, that might also be S&M.....
http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ba3b8f89aa0a75a1a36a
i am not a religious role model, far from it.
but Jesus was, and what's more, he stood up to the religious establishment of his day, and got nailed for it. he is my hero, and that was his mission.
but i won't go further because that would be "preaching".
as we mature, we each have to choose our own beliefs, our own paths, and respect the right of others to choose theirs, to make whatever adjustments they choose to make, without coercion.
and yes, we have to take responsibility for what we do.
are you responsible when dealing with young people yourself, or those less experienced than yourself?
personally, i believe the individual and psychological factors affecting sexuality are complex, and cannot be altered by mere "exorcism", even though i am aware that there is indeed a spiritual world, having had a first-hand experience of the supernatural in the army. (no, i wasn't exorcised by the drill sergeant haha).
i don't have all the answers. i wish i had. but i know all human beings are fallible, whatever their professed religion or politics. i believe God accepts me despite all my contradictions, but i probably won't try to answer any potential questions here in forum, because it would be just too complicated, and i know some would just want to lash out at anything Christian, just as there are those who are always ready to condemn anything of a sexual nature.
i just know that i believe in the Lord Jesus, and always will...
that is my choice.
If one "becomes" homosexual by being overtaken by "gay demons" then wouldn't that mean homosexuality is NOT a choice?
Haha. I don't think they caught themselves on this one.
Speaking with the Associated Press, she said: "We believe a man should be with a woman and a woman should be with a man. We have nothing against homosexuals. I just don't agree with their lifestyle."
...Cognitive dissonance, anyone?
I have nothing against Manifested Glory Ministries, but I don't agree with their lifestyle. Does that mean I get to exorcise the demons out of them?
Also, I love how they said "you sex demon" -- assuming that this kid is not a virgin. Have these people ever considered the fact that a person can be gay and a virgin!?!??!! Why do religious people always seem to focus on the sexual aspect of homosexuality when talking about it, as if homosexuality is nothing but a sexual behavior or act?
"What people are ignoring here is the real danger posed by casting the demon out of this teenager: now there's a gay demon on the loose." - STEPHEN COLBERT, comedian, on the YouTube footage of a Connecticut pastor performing an exorcism on a gay teen
http://www.time.com/time/quotes
its all about self-love.
no amount of religion,beliefs or preaching can help ur life, if u, do not have love within urself.
I have seen young ones nowadays confused over many things and their sexuality is one of those things. If he was willing and wanted to cast out what he thinks is a possession then by all means that is his right and choice.
Sometimes I wonder, what advocates (gay or not) are really bitching about? It is really about our rights? Or just to have a valid reason to act out who we are? Coming out, staying gay, being gay, staying in the closet is all about and will always be a PERSONAL CHOICE.
It is written in the BIBLE, the Word of God.
Matthew 7:15-20
YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS
15 “Beware of FALSE PROPHETS, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
And Matthew 7:21-23
I NEVER KNEW YOU:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me [Jesus], ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I [Jesus] will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
He who has ears let him hear!
Thus, it is prosmicuity and it does not have anything to do with sexual orientation. The Bible does not say anything negative regarding homosexual attraction and falling in love with the same gender.
Apart from prosmicuity, bitterness also can lead to a person getting possessed by demons (Matthew 18:24). Thus, when you see a homosexual get his 'demon' cast out, it could mean the following:
1) Sexual demon (due to prosmucuity, similar to heterosexuals), or
2) Bitterness (when you get angry because other people discriminate you and your anger is not immediately dealth with), or
3) Nothing to do with demons
The homosexual in the video clip has been deceived.
The devil hates Jesus, who is a Homosexual, because He has defeated him. Jesus has defeated the devil by His blood. Via His blood and death on the cross, He has saved the world from hell. But the devil is going to hell. Since the devil has been defeated by Jesus, the only way his anger could be satisfied is by making war with the rest of the homosexuals.
HIV is not from God, it is from the devil. It is a curse from the devil for all races, cultures, nations, states, sexual orientation, age, etc. But he make people think it is a homosexual disease. Why? Just as by the blood of one Man, Jesus, the whole world is blessed and saved, so the devil wants to the whole world to be cursed by HIV and think the blood of homosexuals is dirty. The devil hated the blood of Jesus!! In this way the devil feels that Jesus is always under his feet, defeating Him and he would be God instead of Jesus.
Do not think homosexuality is a sin anymore. Saying that implying Jesus is a sinner, which is a blasphemy. Homosexuality is divine! The devil wants homosexuals think homosexuality is sin, feels condenmed, get into promicuity, self hatred, spread HIV, and then use people to accuse them. Then the devil would be happy as he feels like Jesus is always under his feet.
Just as the jews in the old testament criminalize Jesus and kill Him on the cross, not knowing that He is their God, similarly Christrians today crimialize homosexuals in the secular world. The devil wanted to deceive God's children. He used God's people to kill God as this would hurt God's heart the most. History repeats itself. The same old lie of the devil but in different packaging.
He who has ears let him hear!
1) The Bible did not mention anything immoral/ negative about homosexual orientation.
2) The Bible does mention about homosexual activity, and all negative remarks.
3) The Bible says that the cause of homosexual activities is via the worship of devil/ demons (i.e. idols). This is the only cause mentioned in the Bible (Rom 1:26-27).
Jesus became flesh, a Human Being. He is God Almighty, who humbles Himself even to the extend of being a Homosexual, a Human Being who possesses homosexual orientation (Jn 13:23; Jn 19:26; Jn 20:2; Jn 21:7, 20). Homosexual orientation is divine. The devil knew it and he wanted to be like Father God, wanted to be worshipped as a god. In order to feel like he is the Father, he invented his own perverted form of worship: homosexual prosmicous activity (Rom 1:26-27).
Romans 1:26-27 refers to religious acts of worship involving same sex acts in ancient times and does NOT refer to all homosexual activity.
In John 19:26-27, Jesus saw his mother standing by, and the disciple whom Jesus 'loved', standing by as well, he instructed John to took Mary, His mother, to his own house to take care of her, just like his biological mother.
In Deut 25:5-6, God has implemented a Law regarding widows. In the Old Testament, women are propety of men. They cannot come out into the society to work. Their finances and livelihood depend solely on men. If a woman's husband is dead, and if she had no son, then she would need to get married to her brother-in-law who would take care of her. From this passage, we can know that if she had sons, her first born would take care of her, and if her first born is dead, then her second born would take care of her, and so on. If she had no son and brother-in-laws, then she would need to go back to her father's house, just like the case of Tamar, Judah's daughter-in-law. If her father is dead, then she would remain poor or some forced herself to be prostitutes in order to earn money and survive.
In the case of Jesus, he is the First Born in the family. He is not the husband of Mary. Why would He wanted someone to take care of her after He was dead? Perhaps Mary is a widow by then, i.e. Joseph, Jesus' earthy father, was already dead, Jesus, the first born, was thus the next one to take care of her. Jesus knew God's Law well, and He has biological brothers (Matthew 12:46, John 2:12, Acts 1:14), and one of them is Jude! Jesus would have kept quiet to John and Mary, and let his biological brothers to take care of her. Unless you say that his biological brothers, including Jude, who wrote the Bible, was very unspiritual and forsook their Mother Mary. Otherwise, Jesus would have 'broken' the Law in order to have the outsider, the son of Zebedee called John, to take care of His mother, just because He 'loved' John so much!
Mother Mary became John's mother-in-law and Jesus has instituted same gendered marriage, marrying himself to John on the cross just before He died and said 'it is finished'.
No body know this mystery until 2000 years later. All because the devil lied. Homosexuals, wake up!
Jesus never started exgay movement, and never marry Himself to women, in order to earn 'gay marriage' before the Father for us. Gay marriage is accepted before God the Father and it is there for us to claim. The devil hates it anmd tries all means to distract us from it.
"I will put enmity between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."
The verse is fulfilled. Abrahamic faiths shed lots of blood. Why? God says through Abraham, the whole world is blessed. The devil did the opposite, he wanted the whole world to be cursed through Abraham and his descendants. He let his children kill and hate one another in the sight of the world. That is why Jews kill Muslims, Muslims kill Jews, Muslims oppress women, Catholics persecute Christians, Christians criticize Catholics, Christians criminalize homosexuals, homosexuals hate Christians, etc...All these didn't know that they are far and close relatives of one another, all one big family.
Their only common enemy is the devil.
Note: Killing homosexuals = killing God. Devil deceived Muslims and Christians to kill their God unknowingly, hurting God's heart via His own beloved children.
Devil shouted: Being gay, cannot be Christian. Being Christian, cannot be gay!
What a big lie. The more he lies, the more we know the Truth. Know the Truth and the Truth indeed sets you free.
The Lord rebuke you devil, defeated by a Homosexual, defeated by the blood of a Homosexual, rejected by the love of a Homosexual. The world is saved through the love of a Homosexual. The devil has not tasted the love of a Homosexual, and he will be going to hell. He is very envious! That is why the devil hates the love of homosexuals and the blood of homosexuals, makes the world despise it, defame it, makes the world think it is dirty.
Devil: "What I could not have, I will not let others to have it. I will deceive, deceive, deceive and make many homosexuals hate God! Hahahahaha."
That is why all things are possible with God! Also, many who are first will be last, and last, first.
He who has ears, let him hear!
As far as God is concerned, same gendered marriage is accepted before Him. In the Old Testament, homosexuals can get attracted, love, kiss but cannot have anal sex. They feel incomplete, homosexuality is always 'lower' than heterosexuality. They will have to find completion from the devil (e.g. idol worship in Romans 1:26-27). 'You got to get it from me', says the devil. Thus no way can they please God if they break the Law.
However, Jesus loves us so much. He walked the life of a homosexual, but without sex. After He died, homosexuals can find completion under a same gendered love covenant before God. Homosexual matrimony is brought to the same 'level', if not 'higher', as heterosexual matrimony before the Father. That is to say, God has make a way where there seems to be no way. Same gendered marriage becomes a second option for LGBTs in the New Testament, where in the Old Testament the only way to get it is from the devil.
'Are you leaving me?', the devil screamed. So the devil is angry, kept homosexuals under bondage, strike them with HIV, defame their blood, use the descendants of Abraham to accuse them, rob them of the life which God has purchased for them by His blood. In doing so, he 'feels' that Jesus is under his feet, and he is higher than God.
I may sound crazy but Truth usually sound crazy. But be sure that on the Day of Judgement, every knee (including the fundies) will bow before a Homosexual, every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is God Almighty, who is gay!
Jesus has purchased gay marriage by His blood, and anal sex is accepted before the Father. Gay marriage is now a holy promise from the Father. But the devil hates Jesus. He wanted to steal the promise from us and thus deceives us. He make anal sex as one of the most risky activity in contacting HIV and thus make it into a tabboo.
If thats what I m gonna go thru in church,I better stop going to one.
religion in general is or has become nothing more than a sect...and EVIL sect created by many evil people with EVIL thoughts!!! I have MANY reasons for saying this and this particular video is just one more of them!!! Needles to say, I am NO longer catholic or belong to any religion at all!!! Poor that guy on the video! Wish him best of luck!!!
Yoga.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/5780028/Hindu-guru-claims-homosexuality-can-be-cured-by-yoga.html
They just shot their own foot in the attempt to discredit homosexuality...as usual, dumbasses. :p
請先登入再使用此功能。