Organised by theatre company W!ld Rice in conjunction with Happy Endings: Asian Boys Vol 3, a gay play that is currently being staged, the forum attracted some 250 people on Sunday evening.
Top of the page (from left) Reverend Dr Yap Kim Hao, Fridae CEO Dr Stuart Koe, PAP MP Baey Yam Keng, NMP Siew Kum Hong, moderator Ken Kwek, and gay activist Alex Au. (Photos courtesy of W!ld Rice.)
While all the members of the panel with the exception of Baey have made known their opposition to retain Section 377A of the penal code which criminalises gay sex acts, Baey for the first time publicly voiced his support for the law to be repealed.
"Personally, I think that the whip should be lifted for a very open debate and open expression of opinion by the MPs. And if that is so, I would vote for a repeal of the act."
"From my understanding of my parliamentary colleagues, my guess is that I will be the minority." He said in response to questions posed by member of the floor Dr Russell Heng, an academic and gay activist.
In April, MM Lee Kuan Yew told Reuters that he saw "no option for Singapore but to be part of it" when asked if the government would decriminalise gay sex acts eventually.
Opening the session was a discussion on whether the main opposition to repeal Section 377A is from a small vocal minority who is religiously motivated. Baey posited that not everyone who expresses discomfort with the concept of homosexuality was doing so because of his or her religious beliefs. Au further distinguished those who might be uncomfortable because they are unfamiliar with gay people from those who are reacting based on religious convictions and those who use religion and the gay issue for political aims.
Citing a Straits Times article in which PAP MP Lim Biow Chuan referenced the church, Dr Koe called for a clear separation of church and state and urged all elected officials to represent their constituents - who could be of other faiths or none - without bias.
When asked what his thoughts on homosexuality was, Lim was quoted in the papers as saying, "I think the position of the Church is correct, which is that we should hate the sin (homosexuality) but embrace the sinner."
Other topics that were discussed include whether the majority needs to agree with repealing the law or should the government take the lead, and whether proponents of the repeal of Section 377A should take a more pragmatic approach as mooted by NMP Siew.
Sworn-in in January this year, Siew, who is an outspoken critic of Section 377A, first came to the notice of the gay community in 2003 when he wrote a letter carrying 32 signatures (all of whom are heterosexual) to the Straits Times in response to an anti-gay column. In it, he urged "all gays in Singapore to take heart from our letter, to know that there are a lot more people out there who support their personal rights and freedoms."
Siew, who is of the belief that an argument based on civil rights would not go very far with the current administration, told the forum: "You've got to phrase it in the lingo that will convince the government. I think we all know. It is all about growth, job, money. If you can make a convincing case that 377A is somehow affecting that, then I think you've got a really good chance."
That view was however met with opposition from Au and Dr Koe who believe that civil rights should not be tied to a person's economic worth.
Au, a founding member of gay advocacy group People Like Us and Fridae columnist said: "Taking the economic argument presents a danger, which is to buy into the whole ideology that ultimately humans are digits. I want to base an argument purely on the human rights. Gay identity is very fundamental; it is as fundamental as your ethnic identity, as your linguistic identity, as your religious identity. That being the case, therefore the state through its tools, law, should give equal recognition to that liberty to express your identity."
The extensive review of the Penal Code, Singapore's primary criminal legislation, is expected to come up for debate in parliament in early 2008.
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P.S. I didn't know that our Fridae CEO Dr Stuart Koe was that handsome.XD
Why is there a need for PLU to declare we are gay by coming out? Why can't non-PLUs come out by telling "i'm str8".
We are humans too.
"If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? If you wrong us, shall we not revenge?" ~ William Shakespeare
So PLU are sinners because they were born this way? That's what a Christian minister is encouraging its people to do?
When you look in our eye, you see something you hate in me?
What a load of crock. Why doesn't he just grow some balls and come out and give his REAL opinion, instead of quoting the Chruch. F*ckin' pathetic
Fridae CEO Dr Stuart Koe, is so handsome ;X
Baey said that the govt treats homosexuality like alcohol and cigarettes. Does that mean they'll increase taxes on gay people? I know he's pro the repeal but still...toe-ing the party line. SIGH.
What's the point of us contributing to nation-building when we're never gonna be a part of it?
It is rather clear the the government has closed both eyes to all things gay in Sg. If they had a 3rd eye, I suspect that would be closed too.
We should really stop pointing to the govenment, because it is not them but rather the general Singapore public who marginalise minority groups.
And one more thing, posting something about how someone is hot and cute following a forum like that above just trivialises us.
That above comment - why would any government encourage a drug fest viceful public orgy? That make situations blurred and conducive for lapses of rational judgement and hence the more likely spread of the bug? Are they not protecting us then? In this sense, it suggests we are worth more than those "millions of dollars in revenue" that's referred to in that above statement.
Have they not already highlighted some very high flying gay people at recent National Day rallies??
Section 377- even a 5-yr old can see through the blatant discrimmination.
We, the citizens of Singapore,
pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a democratic society
based on justice and equality
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
progress for our nation.
So for the sake a united people's Happiness, it's definitely wrong & bias to allow oral sex for heteros alone and not other types of humanity. Prosperity & Progress - isn't S'pore well known for it's foresightness esp in view of making the place a central luxurious entertainment & MICE hub in Asia? Why are these lawmakers so stubbornly blind, aren't they myopic enough (figuratively)? So much is at stake, the Govt/lawmakers should quickly upturn the restrictive Penal code 377A and do damage control already. Have faith in freeing the GLBT industry as the way it frees its trade. They've gone a big way in the casinos & IRs and it contradict its need to attract talents to the country. Surely, its generous, peace and gaiety-loving people can accept the reality of GLBT people already living in their midst. Be brave & be truly Uniquely Singapore, please.
Its all abt money, making money and yet more money... thats why the casinos were allowed and thats why evrything will b allowed that rakes in money... and the gov't.s only reason in favour of repealing 377A have so far ALL been linked to the pink dollar...
uniquely singapore? yes, uniquely shameful!
But also, isn't it so boring how religion has to come into every homosexual topic!! These church-lovers keep trying to maintain the world in perfect order, men loving women only etc, but if that was the way it is supposed to be, then cactuses wouldn't grow here in Singapore...
All the love thats in my heart
Remove every doubt
It keeps us apart
And I wish you could know
What it means to be me
Then youd see and agree
Every man should be free
Lamb/Taylor
They should keep their opinions in church, and we should have the rights to live our lives in love in our own sanctuaries, without the law being against us.
Asians running around with biblical names opposing gay rights are embarassing. Truth is: Christianity and the likes are foreign imports. Homosexuality has been around since sentient beings became intelligent.
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