I admit it: Most of the guys that I have been attracted to can be thought of as "straight-acting." At the same time, while I don't have a problem with the set of attributes that people usually demarcate as "straight-acting," I have a problem with the term itself.
Straight-acting men and femme women
Precisely the issue!
The straight-acting guy does not "go with" anyone! He is entirely self-composed, individualistic. He is not defined either in opposition to or even mutually with "gay-acting" guys in the way that "butch" and "femme" are mutually defining and stereotypically coupled together. He is defined by something else but what exactly?
Sometimes butches and femmes are accused of "mimicking" heterosexual gender norms and values (with the butch playing the "man" and the femme playing the "woman"). However, many butch and femme women retort: How presumptuous to assume that butch and femmes are "imitating" straight people! As if butch/femme are not expressions of gender and sexuality in their own right! Butch/femme are no imitation, certainly not necessarily of the values of straight men and women; Imitation of straight people? Pfft!
On the other hand, there is pride behind being a straight-acting man, pride behind its precisely imitative quality. It is straight-acting. It is an imitation, an act to mimic straights. It therefore, does not only or even primarily mean "masculine." It means acting heterosexual. "Straight-acting" comes embedded within its meaning a whole host of other connotations of which masculinity may be but one. Our desire to be straight-acting may be related not just to our valorisation of masculinity, but also a rejection of femininity, as well as coming from an implicit internalised homophobia. How often have we seen the term "gay-acting" used with pride?
Historically, gay men have not really seen ourselves fit to eroticise each other. The concept of a gay "culture" would have been elusive and absurd for many of us, growing up in eras, countries, or locales far removed from a connection to others "like us." Other openly gay men may have been seen as competition for a straight man's attention, rather than as potential partners. The men we might come to love would usually be heterosexual men whom we knew could never love us in return, and our entire sexuality may have been wrapped up and suffused with a sexuality of distance, charged with the eroticism of absence, unattainability, and sometimes, the threat of violence. Our orgasm was conditioned by our learning to eroticise this experience of disconnection.
Not that the situation for lesbians has been too different. However, there is a principle difference, which is that lesbianism seems to have been conditioned in part by a camaraderie and friendship with other women (gay and straight) that has not principally or exclusively been sexual in nature! Lesbianism and feminism found a home in each others arms from the very beginning. Much expression of lesbian sexuality has resulted in as much an assertion against heterosexual norms as an assertion of independent womanhood, which challenges the order of male power that has typically put women "in their place," (in a position of what lesbian feminist writer Adrienne Rich describes as "compulsory heterosexuality," tied to the erotic whims of men).
So straight-acting gay men are not the gay male equivalent of femme lesbians. No. They are something else entirely. The glory of an emerging visible gay culture, both locally and globally, is in how this showcases and highlights our ability to love each other, and not just define our desire by insatiability, insubstantiality, and pathology. In other words, as a gay man, I can love other gay men, and I can learn to snap out of a pattern of falling in love only straight men. However, there is still a lingering melancholy in our gay community regarding our own homosexuality. Perhaps the next best thing to loving a straight man would be loving a straight-acting man? At least this way, we might be loved in return
More compassionately, perhaps this may be a survival mechanism for us in a world that continues to be hostile to gay expression. At the same time, I am uncomfortable with how lusting after "straight-acting," at the same time disproportionately rewarding straight men for playing gay roles, such as Sean Penn in Milk, and Jake Gyllenhaal and the late Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain (no matter how splendid their performances!) may be complicit in maintaining this very hostility toward gays.
Convert, Pass, Cover
In 2006, Kenji Yoshino, a gay Japanese American civil rights lawyer and legal writer published Covering: The Hidden Assault on Our Civil Rights, in which he methodically dissects the way society has treated racial and sexual "otherness" in the course of American history.
Regarding gay civil rights in America, Yoshino suggests that our first struggle was to combat the pressure to convert. In other words:
Gay = Bad/Wrong.
If I am gay, I am bad/wrong.
Hence I must not be gay at all, either in practice or identity.
I should convert to be straight.
This tremendously awful pressure has led to many terrible "therapies" and "treatments" for gay people, ranging from the comparatively tamer psychotherapies (ex: counselling) to electroshock convulsions and lobotomies, to mandatory castration of gay men, in an attempt to "cure" us of our homosexuality.
When that proved to be pointless, and when many of those therapies (in America) had been outlawed, our next struggle was to address the pressure to pass. This means that we may recognise that some core aspect of our identities is fundamentally unchangeable (or not convertible), and we hence experience the pressure instead to "pass," to never be found out, to live our lives in secrecy, and to convince people that we are straight.
I suspect that many of us, especially in gay Asia, are still in that experience of our sexual identities. Many of us may be out to our friends, but not our families or our workplaces. Harvey Milk, the first openly gay man elected to public office in the USA, on whom the recent film Milk is based, famously said, "If a bullet should enter my brain, let that bullet destroy every closet door." Those words can be interpreted as Milk's desire to overcome the pressure to pass, and come out from hiding the reality of who we are. After all, it is only in our visibility that we provide a first step for people understanding the reality of our humanity. However, as Kenji Yoshino demonstrates, even if we did that, there is one more pressure: The pressure to cover.
Yoshino defines covering: "Covering" is a term used to describe "the way we try to 'tone down' stigmatised identities, even when those identities are known to the world." To cover means that we work around the assumption that people may accept and maybe even embrace that we are gay, but these very same people may be uncomfortable when we do gay. For example: Even if our family, friends, or workplace know that we are out of the closet, and are comfortable with that level of disclosure, they may be uncomfortable if we want to bring our partner(s) to a work party, or a family celebration, or if we want to get married or hold hands in the shopping centre. Basically, we can be gay, but we should not act gay, or even publically associate with other gay people!
The pressure to convert, the pressure to pass, and the pressure to cover. Yoshino has given us a good vocabulary to examine where we are at in the phenomenon of living out our otherwise marginal identities in the world. Of course, these pressures do not necessarily exist in a linear or progressive fashion, and any one of these pressures can be present in different places at different times, or even alongside each other. Many of us struggle inside ourselves to negotiate between the pressure to convert ("I hate myself, I don't want to be gay") and the pressure to pass ("ok, so I am gay, but I don't want anyone to know").
The phenomenon of the term "straight-acting" arises in response to the pressure to cover ("ok, so I am gay, and you know, but I'm not like other gay people").
I do not have a problem with the attraction to straight-acting people or for that matter, attraction either principally or exclusively to any type of person (whatever race, gender, height, weight, etc.) I am neither that boring nor that judgemental, and ultimately, it would be such a pointless conversation, since I have neither the desire nor the power to alter our attraction to others. I am more concerned with uncovering how our desires may be conditioned partially by the pressure to cover the more socially dubious aspects of our lives, such as our lust for sex or our need to be publically affectionate, so that we can pass as "normal." To put it most simply, I may be comfortable being attracted to straight-acting guys, but I am not likely to be too impressed with guys who call themselves "straight-acting." Hypocrisy?
There are no easy solutions at the moment. All I need to know, is that when it comes down to it, no matter how "straight-acting" you are, and no matter how "straight-acting" you call yourself, when the lights are out and our lips quiver to meet, we better both start acting really gay.
Malaysia-born and Singapore-bred Shinen Wong is currently getting settled in Sydney, Australia after moving from the United States, having attended college in Hanover, New Hampshire, and working in San Francisco for a year after. In his fortnightly "Been Queer. Done That" column, Wong will explore gender, sexuality, and queer cultures based on personal anecdotes, sweeping generalisations and his incomprehensible libido.
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I think that maybe the desire for (or to be) straight acting is really because the person is afraid of or disslikes gay men who are superficcial, loud and can be described as drama queens. Hence the phrases "Im sorry, I just dont like sissy boys" - aka "camp guys".
I also believe that if you are one to frequently and implicitly say that you are "straight acting" then there is a large chance that that person is an act - be it in a range of possible different ways.
I have never had to say on my profile I am actualy attracted to guys who arnt as camp and found that the guys not going around screaming how straight acting they are, are the more seem more "straight"...
The term dosnt sit well with me either :)
All these 'straight-acting' guys may have a dick but they have not balls...
JPS
I think we should just leave labels aside and let things evolve on their own. Afterall, some hetero women prefer sensitive guys and some hetero men prefer strong women.
These categories correspond to the three ego states, as defined in Transactional Analysis, of Child, Adult and Parent.
There may be displayed at different times even in the same individual and each may be strikingly different when perceived by an observer.
Much have been debated ,,
But is Label necessary ?
Why should we use the word masculine (Gaskay)? In place of straight acting? What is straight acting? Why as a community are we obsessed with labeling ourselves to seek a sense of belonging?
I am what I am (I love Gloria Gaynor).
I am gay and l am sexually attracted to men. My mannerisms just happen to be similar to men who are not gay. Why is it considered wrong to say you are 'straight' acting? When you don't have a limp wrist and ponce around? My last sentence alone implied the typical stereotype of gay men... Someone please tell me what is 'straight' and what is 'Gay'!?
Live Life.... CHOOSE LIFE! Stop wasting energy over these mindless issues.
After all, I have a sour face (and sourer words, often); a geography-teacher-style bad very uncool haircut; mostly black/grey clothes; read a rigidly Leftwing newspaper; want to talk about politics or current affairs or the economy or other 'serious' topics; sit in a corner of gay bars with my back to the room, ignoring Everyone - and get doors held open for me by bouncers, who say: "Good evening, sir."
Hmm. Maybe I'm not 'Straight acting' - maybe I just look OLD lately?!
But, yes, if you wanted to pick out what 'SA' is, I'm probably one of the very visible definitions of the term. I can certainly pick out several friends/guys I know who'd much more easily fit a definition of what a 'gay' is, or looks like. And let me tell you, it ain't that of a grumpy-looking mid-thirties man...
AKA: Piss off, Straightski!
Maybe the term shouldn't be Straight ACTING, but, rather Straight APPEARING? Oh well... I know very well who and what I am... and how my heart works... as well as any other parts... :-P
that said, i don't go for straight acting guys myself for the much stated reason that i'd like my partner to be himself and not "acting". it does imply a certain amount of discomfort with the own sexual identity. i find discomfort rather unattractive.
But isnt it admirable when a gay man wouldn't give in to such pressures? Being able to act naturally and to express your sexuality can be very sexy.
So open up your mind guys! Some gay men can rise above such pettiness and it's these sort of blokes that deserve attention.
Just like how many of my metrosexual straight friends are often mistook as gays cos they dresses too well. But they are very manly too. :)
In such a short time, we already have all sort of labels for people of non heterosexually orientation. Certainly, more labels or names will be 'invented' in the near future. So, who are we to place a value judgment to these new terms. Aren't the writer a hypocrite too in insisting his view as almost absolute.
What defines what a typical man would / should be? It doesn't mean that only straight guys can be masculine.
Very helpful terms to mark out the levels of "outness"~
u-know-i-am-very normal , not like the typical sissy/clown or ugly bulldyke/butch (for lesbians) kinda attitude ....even considered 'hot' enuf for the opposite sex. Then again, those are the very people most of us admittedly find attractive (I'm guilty of this myself). Perhaps it's something that's deeply ingrained in the psyche, nature or nurture- though I suspect it's strongly due to the latter, living in a heteronomative world. But one will realize that as we go along, these so-called 'manly/masculine' or 'womanly/feminine' are very superfical concepts which almost always defines the way we look, the behavior secondary.
I knew it...from sore experience :(
After all, I'm not deliberately or unsubconsciously falling into a conventional role that's accepted as one of the main categories that a 'normal' (ie heterosexual) man appears under in society, but, quite simply, I look, move, talk and appear as the way that seems the most inherently natural to me. This is who I am, whether I or others like or or not, and to be (or try to be) anyone or anything else - well, it just wouldn't feel right.
I'm neither 'straight acting' or 'heterosexual mimicing' - I'm not even sure that you could say I'm trying to be or appear like a man 'is'. I'm just myself; singular, alone, independent; pursuing my own path in life, regardless of the culture I live in, or the gender roles expected of me within it.
Gay culture wishes to neatly label, categorise, identify - and also carry some prejudice - just as much as as the mainstream heterosexual one...
Yes, straight-acting men are victims of heteronormativity. But they also use it, knowingly, seeking to elevate themselves in the gender hierarchy above camp men. Rather than covering, they know they are not normal but they're making a discursive play for heterosexual male privilege nonetheless.
That's Michael Warner's point in The Trouble With Normal, the landmark text in which he conceptualised heteronormativity, and it simply boggles the mind that an author writing as "Queer" could have failed to consider this perspective.
Good word... but if one of 'my' journalists tried slotting that into their copy, I'd replace it...
Asians beware - there is way too much American-style touchy-feeliness and psychologizing these days.
as individualistic as we may be, how unique can that be? everyone is doing it.
i'm reminded of this famous and passe line: "to be or not to be, that is the question." (sorry if i misquoted.) so to feel belong, we act accordingly; however that may be.
or one on gay Dads with cool capable toddlers would be nice
Lala is also 'straight-acting', acting as straight woman! I am a gay man in drag! So can call me 'straight acting gay man' also mah! Kakaka...
I consider myself more butch and masculine than many of the straight acting men, sorry but that is the truth for some of you who have seen me in actions. And you know you cannot call me gay-acting or sissy, it simply does not match Lala's character! So what am I?!! Confuse leh. LOL
Ala... brather! Whether I'm a drama drag queen or you a straight acting, we all sama same acting but in different costume only lah!
Important is we must have 'balls'. If you no hep, can borrow from Lala big 'balls' ;-)
hmm, by Lala's very nature Lala also likes all things straight and guy like. . .
...nothing finer than a good day of wood chopping, riding the horses, playing sports, smoking cigars, drinking beer and playing rugby, so get over it, lagunabro! Women and women-at-heart can do the same!
Lala also falls asleep at circuit parties...
Real and fake women also want to acheive more in life-- we want to be the pilots instead of the flight attendants, we want to build buildings, we want schools named after us, we want to hunt, golf, fish, travel and change the world.
Who says this is only men's nature?
"Men should be men regardless of our sexuality" Yeah rite, make sure you keep your legs up in high when Lala top you!
I think when I come across a profile like that, It just make me really confused with this person...trust me, I will wonder if there is a barometer on how "Str8" looking i am to meet his judgement ...that kinda person should not even be in my consideration, so next please. Trust me, when things don't work out, you might just blame yourself for being not "Str8 enough" for your gay lover. And is not worth it!
Ultimately we are all men Str8 or Gay!
;-)
Butch guys can be just as comformist as more effeminate people
I am a so-called straight looking guy, and I dont usually like butch guys. Most of the times I prefer gay-looking guys, and always individualists!
Also, please only send str8-acting messages and send str8-acting hearts!!! Have some str8-acting pics on your profile as well. I'm definitely str8-acting and only looking for other str8-acting!!! And by the way, did I mention that I am VERY str8-acting??!! I am. Str8-acting.
I guess those who aren't interested to apply a little grey matter to what they read should just move on to another article or perezhilton.com
I am straight acting but by that I just mean that I do not fit into the stereotypes, nor am I camp. And that is what I look for in guys - masculinity, coz that is what attracts me. But that does not mean that I do not like camp guys, they are just not my type, no big deal and no discrimination, other taste which I don't have that much control over, it's the way I am programmed, just part of gay old me :)
Hmm, he is a salary man for a multinational corporation and I am a foreign government worker.
Sounds pretty boring huh? But put us together, we look as straight as it gets although we do not attempt that hallucination ever.
Point being, most young straight men in our population look gayer than we do (NE Asia).
Just for you, shinen might write about those who advertise for "Hot Asian btms... but NO sissy boys" in their profiles in his next column!
But then again, you DON'T have to read it if you think he's preaching to the choir..
'Straight acting' is just a coined phrase denoting that one can't ascertain a guy to be gay purely by just looking at him by the way he acts. In other words, he has no feminine actions, visa vie, limp wrist, swaying hips when walking, and so on. It's a coined phrase, nothing more. Stop reading bias into everything people say. We live in a land where people beat about the bush, and can't get to the point. Why make life more complicated than it actually is. You're acting like someone's been called bitch, fagot, or bum.
One other thing, when posting, please use a spell check, using words that actually exist. 'Unattainability' is just not a word in the English language. And when using famous people's names, get the spelling right. Who's 'Gyllenhaal'?? And as far as hyphenating words, we just don't do it anymore. Terms like straight acting, on line, ill gotten, etc., are just not hyphenated anymore. It's a living language, so things change. Hence the acceptance of alternative spelling for various words like colour/color, economise/economize, etc.
Over-and-out.....err.....or is it over and out?
'Love' his writings, or 'love to hate' his writings you guys have to admit you secretly enjoy reading them, and relish how it stimulates you to react. ( positively or negatively) And isnt that what this forum is about ? You dont have to agree, everybody has free licence to comment. I havent seen so many postings on articles in this forum since Mr.Wong has been contributing.
Hitting the target audience/spot I'd say.
re post #60. Speaking of authenticity, "we" do use hyphens in compound adjectives (i.e. straight-acting singaporeans are foolish fairies) but not for compound nouns (i.e straight acting passes for masculinity). It's just a way to avoid unnecessary confusion. 3 3 room flats vs 3 3-room flats. got it?...We also spell f-a-g-g-o-t with two g's when referring to homosexuals... And we do know that "unattainability" is an acceptable and used word in the English language...And we even write '60s instead of 60's... Damn, we do love being instructive! :)
Yes... I agree that "straight acting" is not the most desirable or appropriate term, but SOMEWHERE in the past the term started common use (and maybe originally for some of the reasons outlined...), and its use now continues today simply by habit.
As a gay male who strongly prefers "straight acting" gay men, my preference is NOT because I have a fantasy about real "straight men". (YUK...!!!) My use of this inappropriate term is simply to indicate that I get TOTALLY turned OFF by the stereotypical effeminite gay man.
Maybe we should devise a more appropriate term that simply indicates "I am not interested in effeminite gay men". Simple! Long dissertation not required.
WHILE THINKING ABOUT IT, MOST ASIAN MEN THAT I HAVE MET ARE NOT COVERED UNDER THAT HEDDING EITHER. UNLESS YOU PUT BEHIND THE "STREIGHT ASIAN ACTING" NOW DON'T JUMP TO THE DEFENSE, I LOVE ASIAN MEN JUST MAKING AN OBESERVATION
I would consider myself a masculine man, but I am also comfortable with any perceive effeminate traits. Believe or not but Straight Guys have these too. So long as you are comfortable with your identity you neither have to promote it or hide, although you may have to be willing to vocalise it to stand up for your rights or to demand them. There will always be stereotypes, but if that is naturally you, cool, if not cool. Just be comfortable with who you are.
And yet, when the lights are out (and sometimes when they are on), and my lips are a-quiver, I don't have to act gay, I just am.
Also, one would need to define what is 'straight' looking and 'gay' looking if you want to say that a person is 'acting straight'.
Let everyone define what they want to define themselves as.
"Paradoxically the cage-aux-folles type of fairy flourishes in Alabama but not in New York or San Francisco.... And why oh why are there 1000 times more drag queens in manila than paris? It's almost as if the only way for gay guys to be authentic homosexuals in repressed cultures is to be defiantly effeminate."
Yep, now that you mentioned it it finally just occured to me...the gays & lesbian scene in paris is VERY different from the ones we have in indonesia or even singapore....here, it's almost always like, butch-femme binary all the time...kinda boring :(
happy valentines! :-)
I think we should use the term "manly/athletic/masculine" to describe the physical appearance that one prefers rather than using "straight acting"
Thanks Shinen for the differentiation..
However, it has been vastly misused by gay ppl just like the use of the word "gay" by straight ppl. Come on, what is "gay acting" anyway and who to judge what behaviour or a demeanor is gay or straight?
The world's indeed getting more superfical & it's sad almost everyone u know-gay/bi or straight, begins judging & making presumptions simply by appearances alone- which, btw is a very stupid thing cause the surface's always the easiest to modify...& manipulate.
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